2017 – 2018 Skilled Occupations List (SOL)

2017 - 2018 Australian Skilled Occupations List (SOL)

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The 2017 – 2018 Australian Skilled Occupations List (SOL) has been published with approximately 200 occupations being removed from what was the 2016 – 2017 SOL

The updated list is available below, in addition, to the 200 roles being removed the SOL has also had a name change with the list now being referred to as (its a mouthful!) the Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL). See here for the list of jobs removed from the previous 2016 – 2017 SOL.

From 19 April 2017, the CSOL list has also received a name change and will now be referred to as STSOL (Short-term skilled occupation list)

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Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL)

Please note that the ‘note’ references are not in order as we have sorted the list in alphabetical order to make it easier to navigate.

OCCUPATION ANZSCO CODE COUNTRY ASSESSING AUTHORITY
Accountant (General) (See Note 5) 221111 All CPA/ICAA/IPA
Actuary 224111 All VETASSESS
Aeronautical Engineer 233911 All Engineers Australia
Agricultural Consultant 234111 All VETASSESS
Agricultural Engineer 233912 All Engineers Australia
Agricultural Scientist 234112 All VETASSESS
Airconditioning & Mechanical Services Plumber 334112 All TRA
Airconditioning & Refrigeration Mechanic 342111 All TRA
Anaesthetist 253211 All Medical Board of Australia
Analyst Programmer 261311 All ACS
Architect 232111 All AACA
Audiologist 252711 All VETASSESS
Automotive Electrician 321111 All TRA
Barrister 271111 All SLAA
Biomedical Engineer 233913 All Engineers Australia
Boat Builder & Repairer 399111 All TRA
Bricklayer 331111 All TRA
Cabinetmaker 394111 All TRA
Cardiologist 253312 All Medical Board of Australia
Cardiothoracic Surgeon 253512 All Medical Board of Australia
Carpenter 331212 All TRA
Carpenter & Joiner 331211 All TRA
Cartographer 232213 All VETASSESS
Chef (See Note 11 and Note 24) 351311 All TRA
Chemical Engineer (See Note 25) 233111 All Engineers Australia
Child Care Centre Manager 134111 All TRA
Chiropractor 252111 All CCEA
Civil Engineer 233211 All Engineers Australia
Civil Engineering Draftsperson 312211 All Engineers Australia/ VETASSESS
Civil Engineering Technician (See Note 25) 312212 All VETASSESS
Clinical Haematologist 253313 All Medical Board of Australia
Clinical Psychologist 272311 All APS
Computer Network & Systems Engineer 263111 All ACS
Construction Project Manager 133111 All VETASSESS
Dermatologist 253911 All Medical Board of Australia
Developer Programmer 261312 All ACS
Diagnostic & Interventional Radiologist 253917 All Medical Board of Australia
Diesel Motor Mechanic 321212 All TRA
Drainer 334113 All TRA
Early Childhood (Pre-Primary School) Teacher 241111 All AITSL
Educational Psychologist 272312 All APS
Electrical Engineer 233311 All Engineers Australia
Electrical Engineering Draftsperson 312311 All Engineers Australia
Electrical Engineering Technician 312312 All TRA
Electrical Linesworker  (See Note 25) 342211 All TRA
Electrician (General) 341111 All TRA
Electrician (Special Class) 341112 All TRA
Electronic Equipment Trades Worker 342313 All TRA
Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (General) 342314 All TRA
Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (Special Class) 342315 All TRA
Electronics Engineer (See Note 25) 233411 All Engineers Australia
Emergency Medicine Specialist 253912 All Medical Board of Australia
Endocrinologist 253315 All Medical Board of Australia
Engineering Manager 133211 All Engineers Australia/AIM
Engineering Technologist 233914 All Engineers Australia
Environmental Engineer 233915 All Engineers Australia
External Auditor 221213 All CPA/ICAA/IPA
Fibrous Plasterer 333211 All TRA
Fitter (General) 323211 All TRA
Fitter & Turner 323212 All TRA
Fitter-Welder 323213 All TRA
Forester 234113 All VETASSESS
Gasfitter 334114 All TRA
Gastroenterologist 253316 All Medical Board of Australia
General Practitioner 253111 All Medical Board of Australia
Geotechnical Engineer 233212 All Engineers Australia
Glazier 333111 All TRA
ICT Business Analyst 261111 All ACS
Industrial Engineer (See Note 25) 233511 All Engineers Australia
Intensive Care Specialist 253317 All Medical Board of Australia
Internal Auditor 221214 All VETASSESS
Joiner 331213 All TRA
Land Economist 224511 All VETASSESS
Landscape Architect 232112 All VETASSESS
Lift Mechanic 341113 All TRA
Locksmith 323313 All TRA
Management Accountant 221112 All CPA/ICAA/IPA
Materials Engineer (See Note 25) 233112 All Engineers Australia
Mechanical Engineer 233512 All Engineers Australia
Medical Administrator (See Note 25) 134211 All VETASSESS
Medical Diagnostic Radiographer 251211 All AIR
Medical Laboratory Scientist 234611 All AIMS
Medical Oncologist 253314 All Medical Board of Australia
Medical Practitioners (nec) 253999 All Medical Board of Australia
Medical Radiation Therapist 251212 All AIR
Metal Fabricator 322311 All TRA
Metal Machinist (First Class) 323214 All TRA
Midwife 254111 All ANMAC
Motor Mechanic (General) 321211 All TRA
Motorcycle Mechanic 321213 All TRA
Naval Architect 233916 All Engineers Australia
Neurologist 253318 All Medical Board of Australia
Neurosurgeon 253513 All Medical Board of Australia
Nuclear Medicine Technologist 251213 All ANZSNM
Nurse Practitioner 254411 All ANMAC
Nursing Clinical Director 134212 All ANMAC
Obstetrician & Gynaecologist 253913 All Medical Board of Australia
Occupational Therapist 252411 All OTC
Ophthalmologist 253914 All Medical Board of Australia
Optometrist 251411 All OCANZ
Organisational Psychologist 272313 All APS
Orthopaedic Surgeon 253514 All Medical Board of Australia
Orthotist or Prosthetist 251912 All VETASSESS
Osteopath 252112 All ANZOC
Other Spatial Scientist 232214 All VETASSESS
Otorhinolaryngologist 253515 All Medical Board of Australia
Paediatric Surgeon 253516 All Medical Board of Australia
Paediatrician 253321 All Medical Board of Australia
Painting Trades Workers 332211 All TRA
Panelbeater 324111 All TRA
Pathologist 253915 All Medical Board of Australia
Physicist (Medical Physicist only) 234914 All ACPSEM
Physiotherapist 252511 All APC
Plastic & Reconstructive Surgeon 253517 All Medical Board of Australia
Plumber (General) 334111 All TRA
Podiatrist 252611 All APodC/ANZPAC
Pressure Welder (See Note 25) 322312 All TRA
Primary Health Organisation Manager 134213 All VETASSESS
Production Manager (Mining) (See Note 25) 133513 All VETASSESS
Production or Plant Engineer (See Note 25) 233513 All Engineers Australia
Project Builder (See Note 25) 133112 All VETASSESS
Psychiatrist 253411 All Medical Board of Australia
Psychologists (nec) 272399 All APS
Psychotherapist 272314 All VETASSESS
Quantity Surveyor 233213 All AIQS
Radiation Oncologist 253918 All Medical Board of Australia
Radio Communications Technician 313211 All TRA
Registered Nurse (Aged Care) 254412 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Child & Family Health) 254413 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Community Health) 254414 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Critical Care & Emergency) 254415 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Developmental Disability) 254416 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Disability & Rehabilitation) 254417 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Medical Practice) 254421 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Medical) 254418 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Mental Health) 254422 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Paediatrics) 254425 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Perioperative) 254423 All ANMAC
Registered Nurse (Surgical) 254424 All ANMAC
Registered Nurses (nec) 254499 All ANMAC
Renal Medicine Specialist 253322 All Medical Board of Australia
Rheumatologist 253323 All Medical Board of Australia
Roof Plumber 334115 All TRA
Secondary School Teacher 241411 All AITSL
Sheetmetal Trades Worker 322211 All TRA
Ship’s Engineer (See Note 25) 231212 All AMSA
Ship’s Master (See Note 25) 231213 All AMSA
Ship’s Officer (See Note 25) 231214 All AMSA
Shipwright 399112 All TRA
Small Engine Mechanic 321214 All TRA
Social Worker 272511 All AASW
Software Engineer 261313 All ACS
Solicitor 271311 All SLAA
Solid Plasterer 333212 All TRA
Sonographer 251214 All AIR
Special Education Teachers (nec) 241599 All AITSL
Special Needs Teacher 241511 All AITSL
Specialist Physician (General Medicine) 253311 All Medical Board of Australia
Specialist Physicians (nec) 253399 All Medical Board of Australia
Speech Pathologist 252712 All SPA
Stonemason (See Note 25) 331112 All TRA
Structural Engineer 233214 All Engineers Australia
Surgeon (General) 253511 All Medical Board of Australia
Surveyor 232212 All SSSI
Systems Analyst 261112 All ACS
Taxation Accountant 221113 All CPA/ICAA/IPA
Teacher of the Hearing Impaired 241512 All AITSL
Teacher of the Sight Impaired 241513 All AITSL
Technical Cable Jointer 342212 All TRA
Telecommunications Engineer 263311 All Engineers Australia
Telecommunications Field Engineer 313212 All Engineers Australia
Telecommunications Network Engineer 263312 All Engineers Australia
Telecommunications Network Planner (See Note 25) 313213 All Engineers Australia
Telecommunications Technical Officer or Technologist 313214 All Engineers Australia
Thoracic Medicine Specialist 253324 All Medical Board of Australia
Transport Engineer 233215 All Engineers Australia
Urologist 253518 All Medical Board of Australia
Valuer 224512 All VETASSESS
Vascular Surgeon 253521 All Medical Board of Australia
Veterinarian 234711 All AVBC
Wall & Floor Tiler 333411 All TRA
Welder (First Class) 322313 All TRA
Welfare Centre Manager 134214 All ACWA/VETASSESS


SCHEDULE 2

Short-term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL)

From 19 April 2017, the CSOL list has also received a name change and will now be referred to as STSOL (Short-term skilled occupation list).

Column A Column B Column C Column D
OCCUPATION ANZSCO CODE COUNTRY ASSESSING AUTHORITY
Chief Executive or Managing Director (See Note 17) 111111 All AIM
Corporate General Manager (See Note 17) 111211 All AIM
Aquaculture Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121111 All VETASSESS
Cotton Grower(See Note 12 and Note 26) 121211 All VETASSESS
Flower Grower (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121212 All VETASSESS
Fruit or Nut Grower (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121213 All VETASSESS
Grain, Oilseed or Pasture Grower (Aus) / Field Crop Grower (NZ) (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121214 All VETASSESS
Grape Grower (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121215 All VETASSESS
Mixed Crop Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121216 All VETASSESS
Sugar Cane Grower (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121217 All VETASSESS
Vegetable Grower (Aus) / Market Gardener (NZ) (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121221 All VETASSESS
Crop Farmers (nec) (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121299 All VETASSESS
Apiarist (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121311 All VETASSESS
Beef Cattle Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121312 All VETASSESS
Dairy Cattle Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121313 All VETASSESS
Horse Breeder (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121316 All VETASSESS
Mixed Livestock Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121317 All VETASSESS
Pig Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121318 All VETASSESS
Poultry Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121321 All VETASSESS
Sheep Farmer (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121322 All VETASSESS
Livestock  Farmers (nec) (See Note 12 and Note 26) 121399 All VETASSESS
Mixed Crop & Livestock Farmer
(See Note 12 and Note 26)
121411 All VETASSESS
Sales & Marketing Manager (See Note 10) 131112 All AIM
Advertising Manager 131113 All AIM
Corporate Services Manager (See Note 18) 132111 All VETASSESS
Finance Manager (See Note 20) 132211 All CPAA/ICAA/IPA
Human Resource Manager 132311 All AIM
Manufacturer 133411 All VETASSESS
Production Manager (Forestry) (See Note 26) 133511 All VETASSESS
Supply and Distribution Manager (See Note 23) 133611 All AIM
Health & Welfare Services Managers (nec) 134299 All VETASSESS
School Principal 134311 All VETASSESS
Faculty Head 134411 All VETASSESS
Education Managers (nec) 134499 All VETASSESS
Chief Information Officer 135111 All ACS
ICT Project Manager (See Note 20) 135112

 

All ACS
ICT Managers (nec) 135199 All ACS
Arts Administrator or Manager 139911 All VETASSESS
Environmental Manager 139912 All VETASSESS
Laboratory Manager 139913 All VETASSESS
Quality Assurance Manager 139914 All VETASSESS
Specialist Managers (nec)
except:
a.       Ambassadorb.      Archbishopc.       Bishop
139999 All VETASSESS
Cafe or Restaurant Manager
(See Note 3 and Note 24)
141111 All VETASSESS
Hotel or Motel Manager
(See Note 19)
141311 All VETASSESS
Accommodation & Hospitality Managers (nec) 141999 All VETASSESS
Hair or Beauty Salon Manager (See Note 13) 142114 All VETASSESS
Post Office Manager 142115 All VETASSESS
Fitness Centre Manager 149112 All VETASSESS
Sports Centre Manager 149113 All VETASSESS
Customer Service Manager
(See Note 10)
149212 All VETASSESS
Conference & Event Organiser
(See Note 9)
149311 All VETASSESS
Fleet Manager 149411 All VETASSESS
Transport Company Manager
(See Note 16)
149413 All VETASSESS
Facilities Manager (See Note 8) 149913 All VETASSESS
Equipment Hire Manager 149915 All VETASSESS
Dancer or Choreographer 211112 All VETASSESS
Musician (Instrumental) 211213 All VETASSESS
Photographer 211311 All VETASSESS
Visual Arts & Crafts Professionals (nec) 211499 All VETASSESS
Book or Script Editor 212212 All VETASSESS
Director (Film, Television, Radio or Stage) 212312 All VETASSESS
Film & Video Editor 212314 All VETASSESS
Program Director (Television or Radio) 212315 All VETASSESS
Stage Manager 212316 All VETASSESS
Technical Director 212317 All VETASSESS
Video Producer 212318 All VETASSESS
Copywriter 212411 All VETASSESS
Newspaper or Periodical Editor 212412 All VETASSESS
Print Journalist 212413 All VETASSESS
Technical Writer 212415 All VETASSESS
Television Journalist 212416 All VETASSESS
Journalists & Other Writers (nec) 212499 All VETASSESS
Company Secretary 221211 All VETASSESS
Commodities Trader 222111 All VETASSESS
Finance Broker 222112 All VETASSESS
Insurance Broker 222113 All VETASSESS
Financial Brokers (nec) 222199 All VETASSESS
Financial Market Dealer 222211 All VETASSESS
Stockbroking Dealer 222213 All VETASSESS
Financial Dealers (nec) 222299 All VETASSESS
Financial Investment Adviser 222311 All VETASSESS
Financial Investment Manager 222312 All VETASSESS
Recruitment Consultant
(see Note 23
)
223112 All VETASSESS
ICT Trainer 223211 All ACS
Mathematician 224112 All VETASSESS
Statistician 224113 All VETASSESS
Gallery or Museum Curator 224212 All VETASSESS
Health Information Manager 224213 All VETASSESS
Records Manager 224214 All VETASSESS
Economist 224311 All VETASSESS
Librarian 224611 All VETASSESS
Management Consultant
(See Note 21
)
224711 All VETASSESS
Organisation & Methods Analyst 224712 All VETASSESS
Patents Examiner 224914 All VETASSESS
Information and Organisation Professionals (nec) (See Note 20) 224999 All VETASSESS
Advertising Specialist (See Note 20) 225111 All VETASSESS
Marketing Specialist (See Note 10) 225113 All VETASSESS
ICT Account Manager 225211 All VETASSESS
ICT Business Development Manager 225212 All VETASSESS
ICT Sales Representative 225213 VETASSESS
Public Relations Professional 225311 All VETASSESS
Technical Sales Representatives (nec) including, but not limited to, education sales representatives (See Note 15) 225499 All VETASSESS
Fashion Designer 232311 All VETASSESS
Industrial Designer 232312 All VETASSESS
Jewellery Designer 232313 All VETASSESS
Graphic Designer (See Note 20) 232411 All VETASSESS
Illustrator 232412 All VETASSESS
Web Designer 232414 All VETASSESS
Interior Designer 232511 All VETASSESS
Urban & Regional Planner 232611 All VETASSESS
Mining Engineer (excluding Petroleum) 233611 All Engineers Australia
Engineering Professionals (nec) 233999 All Engineers Australia
Chemist 234211 All VETASSESS
Wine Maker (See Note 26) 234213 All VETASSESS
Environmental Consultant 234312 All VETASSESS
Environmental Research Scientist 234313 All VETASSESS
Environmental Scientists (nec) 234399 All VETASSESS
Geologist 234411 All VETASSESS
Botanist 234515 All VETASSESS
Marine Biologist 234516 All VETASSESS
Zoologist 234518 All VETASSESS
Conservator 234911 All VETASSESS
Meteorologist 234913 All VETASSESS
Physicist 234914 All VETASSESS
Primary School Teacher 241213 All AITSL
Middle School Teacher (Aus) / Intermediate School Teacher (NZ) 241311 All AITSL
University Lecturer (Suitable for the position of Research Associate or Research Fellow in a University) (See Note 20) 242111 All VETASSESS
University Tutor 242112 All VETASSESS
Education Adviser 249111 All VETASSESS
Art Teacher (Private Tuition) 249211 All VETASSESS
Dance Teacher (Private Tuition) 249212 All VETASSESS
Music Teacher (Private Tuition) 249214 All VETASSESS
Private Tutors & Teachers (nec) 249299 All VETASSESS
Teacher of English to Speakers of Other Languages 249311 All VETASSESS
Dietitian 251111 All DAA
Nutritionist 251112 All VETASSESS
Occupational Health and Safety Adviser 251312 All VETASSESS
Orthoptist 251412 All VETASSESS
Hospital Pharmacist 251511 All APharmC
Industrial Pharmacist 251512 All VETASSESS
Retail Pharmacist 251513 All APharmC
Health Promotion Officer 251911 All VETASSESS
Health Diagnostic & Promotion Professionals (nec) 251999 All VETASSESS
Acupuncturist 252211 All VETASSESS
Naturopath 252213 All VETASSESS
Traditional Chinese Medicine Practitioner 252214 All Chinese Medicine Board Of Australia
Complementary Health Therapists (nec) 252299 All VETASSESS
Dental Specialist 252311 All ADC
Dentist 252312 All ADC
Resident Medical Officer 253112 All Medical Board of Australia
Nurse Educator 254211 All ANMAC/VETASSESS
Nurse Manager 254311 All ANMAC/VETASSESS
Multimedia Specialist 261211 All ACS
Software Tester (See Note 20) 261314 All ACS
Software & Applications  Programmers (nec) 261399 All ACS
Database Administrator 262111 All ACS
ICT Security Specialist 262112 All ACS
Systems Administrator 262113 All ACS
Network Administrator 263112 All ACS
Network Analyst 263113 All ACS
ICT Quality Assurance Engineer 263211 All ACS
ICT Support Engineer (see Note 20) 263212 All ACS
ICT Systems Test Engineer (See Note 20) 263213 All ACS
Judicial & Other Legal Professionals (nec) 271299 All VETASSESS
Careers Counsellor 272111 All VETASSESS
Drug & Alcohol Counsellor 272112 All VETASSESS
Family & Marriage Counsellor 272113 All VETASSESS
Rehabilitation Counsellor 272114 All VETASSESS
Student Counsellor 272115 All VETASSESS
Counsellors (nec) 272199 All VETASSESS
Minister of Religion (See Note 4) 272211 All VETASSESS
Interpreter 272412 All NAATI
Social Professionals (nec) 272499 All VETASSESS
Recreation Officer 272612 All VETASSESS
Welfare Worker 272613 All ACWA
Agricultural Technician (See Note 26) 311111 All VETASSESS
Anaesthetic Technician 311211 All VETASSESS
Cardiac Technician 311212 All VETASSESS
Medical Laboratory Technician 311213 All AIMS
Pharmacy Technician 311215 All VETASSESS
Medical Technicians (nec) 311299 All VETASSESS
Meat Inspector 311312 All VETASSESS
Primary Products Inspectors (nec) (See Note 26) 311399 All VETASSESS
Chemistry Technician 311411 All VETASSESS
Earth Science Technician 311412 All VETASSESS
Life Science Technician 311413 All VETASSESS
Science Technicians (nec) 311499 All VETASSESS
Architectural Draftsperson 312111 All VETASSESS
Building Associate 312112 All VETASSESS
Building Inspector 312113 All VETASSESS
Architectural, Building & Surveying Technicians (nec) 312199 All VETASSESS
Mechanical Engineering Technician (See Note 22) 312512 All TRA
Metallurgical or Materials Technician 312912 All VETASSESS
Mine Deputy 312913 All VETASSESS
Hardware Technician 313111 All TRA
ICT Customer Support Officer 313112 All TRA
Web Administrator 313113 All ACS
Farrier 322113 All TRA
Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Mechanical) 323112 All TRA
Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Structures) 323113 All TRA
Textile, Clothing  & Footwear Mechanic 323215 All TRA
Metal Fitters & Machinists (nec) 323299 All TRA
Precision Instrument Maker & Repairer 323314 All TRA
Watch & Clock Maker & Repairer 323316 All TRA
Toolmaker 323412 All TRA
Vehicle Body Builder 324211 All TRA
Vehicle Trimmer 324212 All TRA
Roof Tiler 333311 All TRA
Business Machine Mechanic 342311 All TRA
Cabler (Data & Telecommunications) 342411 All TRA
Telecommunications Linesworker 342413 All TRA
Baker (See Note 7) 351111 All TRA
Pastrycook (See Note 7) 351112 All TRA
Cook (See Note 11 and Note 24) 351411 All TRA
Dog Handler or Trainer 361111 All VETASSESS
Animal Attendants & Trainers (nec) (See Note 6) 361199 All VETASSESS
Veterinary Nurse 361311 All VETASSESS
Florist 362111 All TRA
Gardener (General) 362211 All TRA
Arborist 362212 All TRA
Landscape Gardener 362213 All TRA
Greenkeeper 362311 All TRA
Hairdresser (See Note 20) 391111 All TRA
Print Finisher 392111 All TRA
Printing Machinist 392311 All TRA
Upholsterer 393311 All TRA
Furniture Finisher 394211 All TRA
Picture Framer 394212 All TRA
Wood Machinist 394213 All TRA
Wood Machinists & Other Wood Trades Workers (nec) 394299 All TRA
Chemical Plant Operator 399211 All TRA
Power Generation Plant Operator 399213 All TRA
Library Technician 399312 All VETASSESS
Jeweller 399411 All TRA
Camera Operator (Film, Television or Video) 399512 All TRA
Make Up Artist 399514 All TRA
Sound Technician 399516 All TRA
Performing Arts Technicians (nec) 399599 All VETASSESS
Signwriter 399611 All TRA
Ambulance Officer 411111 All VETASSESS
Intensive Care Ambulance Paramedic 411112 All VETASSESS
Dental Technician 411213 All TRA
Diversional Therapist 411311 All VETASSESS
Enrolled Nurse 411411 All ANMAC
Massage Therapist (See Note 14) 411611 All VETASSESS
Community Worker 411711 All VETASSESS
Disabilities Services Officer 411712 All VETASSESS
Family Support Worker 411713 All VETASSESS
Residential Care Officer 411715 All VETASSESS
Youth Worker 411716 All VETASSESS
Diving Instructor (Open Water) 452311 All VETASSESS
Gymnastics Coach or Instructor 452312 All VETASSESS
Horse Riding Coach or Instructor 452313 All VETASSESS
Snowsport Instructor 452314 All VETASSESS
Swimming Coach or Instructor 452315 All VETASSESS
Tennis Coach 452316 All VETASSESS
Other Sports Coach or Instructor 452317 All VETASSESS
Sports Development Officer 452321 All VETASSESS
Footballer 452411 All VETASSESS
Sportspersons (nec) 452499 All VETASSESS
Contract Administrator (See Note 20) 511111 All VETASSESS
Program or Project Administrator 511112 All VETASSESS
Insurance Loss Adjuster 599612 All VETASSESS
Insurance Agent 611211 All VETASSESS
Property Manager 612112 All VETASSESS
Real Estate Agency Principal 612113 All VETASSESS
Real Estate Agent 612114 All VETASSESS
Real Estate Representative 612115 All VETASSESS

 

 

 

3  Notes

Repeal the Notes, substitute:

NOTES

For Schedule 1 and Schedule 2

Note 1.    ANZSCO means the Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations published by the Australian Bureau of Statistics and current as at
1 July 2016.

Note 2.    nec means “not elsewhere classified”.

Note 3.    In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions in a limited service restaurant.  A limited service restaurant includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

  1. a) fast food or takeaway food services;
  2. b) fast casual restaurants;
  3. c) drinking establishments that offer only a limited food service;
  4. d) limited service cafes including, but not limited to, coffee shops or mall cafes;
  5. e) limited service pizza restaurants.

Note 4.    Minister of Religion is specified as a skilled occupation only for the purposes of paragraph 2.72B(3)(b) of the Regulations, and only in relation to an application for a Subclass 407 (Training) visa. Minister of Religion is not specified as a skilled occupation in relation to any other visa subclass, despite paragraphs 2, 5, 6 and 8.

Note 5.    In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) clerical, book keeper and accounting clerk positions;
  2. b) positions in a business that have an annual turnover of less than
    AUD 1 million;
  3. c) positions in a business that have fewer than five employees.

Note 6.    In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions related  to animal husbandry including, but not limited to, caring for livestock on a farm setting.

Note 7.    In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions related to mass or standardised production, including positions based in a franchise or factory, as opposed to specialist production. Positions excluded, but not limited to the following exclusions, are any of the following:

  1. a) positions that involve full or partial production of food product for distribution to another location;
  2. b) positions that predominantly involve the use of pre-prepared food product from another location.

Note 8.   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) positions that are not located in a commercial building or shopping centre environment;
  2. b) positions that predominately involve the management of the provision of only one particular service to a facility or managing one particular relationship.

Example:    a position that manages the cleaning contract for a facility but not other contracts relevant to the facility.

Note 9.   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) positions in a business that have an annual turnover of less than AUD 1 million;
  2. b) positions that have a nominated base salary of less than AUD 65,000.

 

 

Note 10: In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) positions based in a front-line retail setting;
  2. b) positions that predominately involve direct client transactional interaction on a regular basis;
  3. c) positions in a business that have an annual turnover of less than AUD 1 million;
  4. d) positions that have a nominated base salary of less than AUD 65,000.

Note 11.  In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions involved in mass production in a factory setting and positions in a limited service restaurant.  A limited service restaurant includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

  1. a) fast food or takeaway food services;
  2. b) fast casual restaurants;
  3. c) drinking establishments that offer only a limited food service;
  4. d) limited service cafes including, but not limited to, coffee shops or mall cafes;
  5. e) limited service pizza restaurants.

Note 12.  In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions that predominantly involve low-skilled tasks.

Examples:    fruit picking or packing, feeding of livestock or animals

Note 13:  In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) positions that predominately involve hair dressing and/or beauty therapy related non-managerial tasks; or
  2. b) positions in a business that employ fewer than five employees.

 

 

Note 14:  In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) non full-time positions;
  2. b) positions that are not based in a therapeutic setting;
  3. c) positions involving the provision of  non-medical relaxation massage.

Note 15:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) positions that are based in a front-line retail setting;
  2. b) positions that are based in a call centre and do not require a significant technical knowledge of products;
  3. c) positions that predominantly involve selling educational courses to individual students;
  4. d) positions that have a nominated base salary of less than AUD 65,000.

Note 16:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) truck driver positions;
  2. b) fleet manager positions;
  3. c) container controller positions;
  4. d) positions in a business that have an annual turnover of less than AUD 1 million;
  5. e) positions in a business that have fewer than five employees.

Note 17:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any one of the following:

  1. a) positions in a business that have an annual turnover of less than AUD 1 million;
  2. b) positions in a business that have fewer than five employees;
  3. c) positions that have a nominated base salary of less than AUD 90,000.

Note 18:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any one of the following:

  1. a) positions in a business that have an annual turnover of less than AUD 1 million;
  2. b) positions in a business that have fewer than five employees;
  3. c) positions that have a nominated base salary of less than AUD 80,000.

Note 19:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions that predominately involve  responsibility for managing hotel or motel staff.  The specification does not exclude positions that predominately involve responsibility for organising and controlling the operations of a hotel or motel that may have limited duties requiring management of hotel or motel staff but is not the main function of the position.

Note 20:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions that do not require a minimum of two years relevant work experience.

Note 21:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) positions in a business that have an annual turnover of less than AUD 1 million;
  2. b) positions in a business that have fewer than five employees.

Note 22:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes positions relating to mobile phone repairs.

Note 23:   In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification excludes any of the following:

  1. a) positions in a business with an annual turnover of less than AUD 1 million;
  2. b) positions in a business with fewer than five employees;
  3. c) positions that have a nominated base salary of less than AUD 65,000.

Note 24:   In relation to specifications of occupations for Subclass 186 – Employer Nomination Scheme visa, for the purposes of sub-subparagraph 5.19(4)(h)(i)(A) of the Regulations, indicates that, despite paragraph 6, for an application for approval of a nomination for a Subclass 186 visa, the occupation excludes positions in Fast Food or Takeaway Food Service.

Note 25:    These occupations are specified as a skilled occupation only in relation to an application for a visa listed below. These occupations are not specified as a skilled occupation in relation to any other visa subclass, despite paragraphs 2, 5, 6 and 8.

  • subclass 189 Skilled Independent visa
  • subclass 485 Temporary Graduate visa
  • subclass 489 Skilled Regional (Provisional), if the applicant is not nominated by a State or Territory government agency.

Note 26: (1) These occupations are specified as a skilled occupation only in relation to an application for a visa or an application for approval of a nomination for a visa listed below. These occupations are not specified as a skilled occupation in relation to any other visa subclass, despite paragraphs 3, 4, 5 and 8.

  • subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa
  • subclass 186 – Employer Nomination Scheme visa
  • subclass 489 – Skilled-Regional(Provisional) visa, if the applicant is nominated by a State or Territory government agency.

(2)  In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa, despite paragraph 2 of this instrument, for the purposes of paragraph 2.72(10)(aa) of the Regulations, the specification only includes positions located in regional Australia.

(Regional Australia is defined in subregulation 5.19(7) of the Migration Regulations 1994.)

Acronym table

The acronyms used to refer to an Assessing Authority mean:

Acronym Expanded meanings
AACA Architects Accreditation Council of Australia Inc
AASW Australian Association of Social Workers
ACOPRA/APC Australian Council of Physiotherapy Regulating Authorities Ltd/Australian Physiotherapy Council
ACPSEM Australasian College of Physical Scientist and Engineers in Medicine
ACS Australian Computer Society
ACWA Australian Community Workers Association
ADC Australian Dental Council
AIM Australian Institute of Management
AIMS Australian Institute of Medical Scientists
AIQS Australian Institute of Quantity Surveyors
AIR Australian Institute of Radiography
AITSL Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership
AMSA Australian Maritime Safety Authority
ANMAC Australian Nursing and Midwifery Accreditation Council
ANZOC Australian and New Zealand Osteopathic Council (Name changed to Australasian Osteopathic Accreditation Council from 6 August 2014)
ANZSNM Australian and New Zealand Society of Nuclear Medicine
APharmC Australian Pharmacy Council
APodC/ANZPAC Australian Podiatry Council/Australian and New Zealand Podiatry Accreditation Council Inc.
APS Australian Psychological Society
AVBC Australasian Veterinary Boards Council Inc.
CASA Civil Aviation Safety Authority
CCEA Council on Chiropractic Education Australasia Inc.
CPAA Certified Practising Accountants Australia
DAA Dieticians Association of Australia
Engineers Australia Institution of Engineers, Australia
ICAA Institute of Chartered Accountants of Australia (Name changed to Chartered Accountants Australia and New Zealand from 31 December 2014)
IPA Institute of Public Accountants
NAATI National Accreditation Authority for Translators and Interpreters
OCANZ Optometry Council of Australia and New Zealand
OTC Occupational Therapy Council
SLAA State Legal Admission Authority
SPA Speech Pathology Association of Australia
SSSI Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute
TRA Trades Recognition Australia
VETASSESS Vocational Education and Training Assessment Services

 

 

 

 



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Maxkhan

Dear Mark,

In the CSOL available on the dip website the electronics engineer is not available even though it is available in the MLTSSL list . Can this be the reason that it reached its ceiling value? Your expert opinion will be highly regarded.

Apart from this these 16 occupation which were not removed but given restricted for some visas class ? What is your prediction for their future in 2017 ~2018 list.

Thanks in advance

Regards

Max khan

Ashutosh Gosavi

Mark,

Can you please let me know when can we expect the new MLTSSL list for the year 2017-2018.

Best,

Chen

Hi Mark,

I’m a Sales & Marketing Manager for an Italian winery in Asia currently, I’m thinking about applying for Marketing Specialist 225113 in Australia, I’m wondering if there’s a limitation to the industries for this job, can wine marketing/trading be included?

Thank you so much!
Chen

Anniya

Hi Mark

Please can you tell me that where I can get details requirements against each category like the education, experience ilets score extra so that I can choose the best one to which I ful fill the requirements

Ven

Hi Mark,
What are the chances for electronics engineer & telecommunication engineer to be on 2017- 2018 SOL?

Thank you.

inder

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the reply but to specific 39.4 years will be considered in 32-39 (inclusive) or 40-44 (inclusive) .In which categogry it will fall.

inder

Hi Mark,
My DOB is 15 -07-1978,so if i apply in the month of july for skill asessment ,as per point calculation shall get 25 points or 15 point.
please share the reference point if any.

Sudan

Hi,
I loged an EOI as an External Auditor (221213), but in this new MTSSL this occupation is not listed, will it have an impact on my invitation chances? Will I need to change my nominated occupation to that of a Gerneral Accountant(221111)?
Thank You.

Software Engineer with 11+ years exp in ecm/ccm area

Hi Mark, Its really nice to see such a crisp n quick replies from u for all queries! Really appreciated! Im a electronic n telecomm engineer and have 11 years exp in software engineering.. Whts the best suited role for me as per SOL? Also would like to understand from a PR process perspective.. from where to start? Im little confused n like to know whr to start.. skill assessment – wht i need to do for this? Any agency will help me in getting this done? EOI – when can i apply this? After skill assessment or even i… Read more »

med

Hi
My occuption is on the STSOL; my agent is telling me to apply 189 visa; is that possible ? if not , what are my options?

i am Aircraft maintenance engineer.

Ashutosh Gosavi

Hi Mark,

The list published after 17 April, will changes will the occupations be removed.
Cartographer is a Flagged occupation will it be remove or added

ajay

Hi mark
I was wondering if an applicant has a good chance of getting invited if he has an occupation from stsol ? or will each state in Australia come up with a separate occupation list ??

Also when should an applicant send an eoi to dibp (have they started accepting EOIs according to new rules 20 april 2017)
Please guide me
Thank you

Nikhil

Hi Mark, I have submitted my EOI with 65 points in Feb 2017 for 189 Visa as Engineering Technologist and waiting for the invite. I would like to know on the possibilities of getting additional 5 partner points to better my chances of an early invite in July. My spouse has done B.Sc in Zoology and Masters in Marine Biology. I see the occupation “Marine Biologist” listed in the STSOL. My occupation Engineering Technologist also appear in STSOL. Can I go with the skill assessment for her with her qualification? She has has no relevant working experience though. Please suggest.… Read more »

ajay

Hi mark
I was wondering if an applicant has a good chance of getting invited if he has an occupation from stsol ? or will each state in Australia come up with a separate occupation list ??

Also when should an applicant send an eoi to dibp (have they started accepting EOIs according to new rules 20 april 2017)
Please guide me
Thank you

Raj

Hi Mark,

I have Applied for Visa in the month of Oct 2016 but now as per new STSOL list my occupation is permanently removed will it impact my case and how much time is expected to get visa .

Thanks in Advance
Raj

Barney Lassen

Hi Mark, Is it worth submitting a 186 application now for a job that will not be on the Medium skills after March 2018, but is currently in the short term list? I’m of the opinion that it will be rejected unless it’s processed before March 2018 which seems unrealistic given typical processing times. The job is Marketing Specialist. Thanks in advance.

Mani

The list only specifies the occupations that will be in the SOL during 2017-2018. When will the occupation ceilings for this SOL be announced ?

calvin

Hi Mark, thanks for your post. I’m currently holding a 457 visa which was granted in July 2016. My occupation is Restaurant manager which in the Short term list from now on. So do I just need to work two years under the same position and then apply 186 – permanent resident visa as the change of 457 visa on 19th April will not affect people holding 457 visa prior 19th April? thank you

Suchan Oh

Dear Mark

Hi Mark, Thanks for updating

I am preparing 189, 190 as an accountant

Every year, there is a rumor, accountant will be removed from SOL

According to your SOL Lists post, Accountant is still valid for 189 for the year ending June 2018?

Regards
Suchan

Hem Raj Joshi

Hello sir , I have completed B.Sc. in chemistry recently. I just want to know that which subject i should pursue further in masters to get the job of chemistry technician.Is there any subject related to public health in SOL list????

Erika

Hello sir ,i want to study masters of counselling which is coming under the short term occupation list and i am an international student. Would it be safe to invest in australia with the goal of settling there ?

Swaraj

Hi Mark,
I have just initiated my 189 visa application with submission of my skill sets to skillselect.Iam a Mechanical Engineer and noticed that its appearing in the recently released MLTSSL.My Q is that can we expect a revised MLTSSL again in July’17 or the 19th April list would remain valid for 2017/18.

Asha

Hello sir , im an international student seeking to broaden my horizons by coming to australia. My occupation is now coming in the short term skilled list. Is it still a safe bet to apply to australia with the dream of settling there one day ?

Hasan

hi mark,

i am currently doing MBA program form Darwin only one semester left. in previous month i assists my degree from Engineer Australia in Chemical Engineering. and i have also 3 years overseas experience. no i am worry that chemical engineer will be removed from SOL list in July? and what can i do to apply 189 visa, thanks

Dawn

Hi Mark, My question is regards to any individuals currently on a 457 visa (granted prior to 17 April 2017). Will they be impacted by the changes to the 186 visa come March 2018? I understand the new law stipulates that 186 visa applications will be underpinned by the MLTSSL however will this be the case too for someone transitioning from a 457 to 186 visa and not a direct entry 186 visa applicant? In particular if the person can only apply for 186 down the track well over March 2018. Do you have any clarification on this particular issue?… Read more »

Tayyab

Hi Mark,
Accountant General is part of MTSSL. Does this mean that it will remain in the list for PR invitations for 2017-18 or could it still be excluded from the list after review?
Thanks

Evangelia

Hi Mark, I am intrested in applying for state nomination in Victoria as a Phd graduate. I am a Mathematician. I used to live in Melbourne for almost a year and studied there also for Certificate 3 and 4 in Business when I first arrived here. My husband and I have relatives in Melbourne but we currently living in Sydney because I am doing my Phd, and that is the reason why we came here ad left Melbourne. Now my question is if we have to move in Melbourne first before applying for state nomination because I do not have… Read more »

Iain

Hi Mark, Up until Tuesday the company I work for here in the UK but are global head office is in Brisbane were going to sponsor me on a 457 Visa as ICT Trainer. Now with the announcement of this being scrapped they have said they can still sponsor me but only on the STSOL giving me 2 years, then reapply whilst on shore for another 2 years and then if I wanted longer I would have to go offshore for this to be done. Does this all mean the dream my wife and I had of setting ourselves up… Read more »

Sevy

Hello, and thanks for this detailed piece of info. My question is, I’m uncertain as for the applicability of the new MLTSSL list. Is it for year 2017-2018, applicable from 1st of July?
Thanks a lot for your answer, as I’m not sure I clearly found the “validity” of this list on the Internet yet.
Regards,
Sev

Dinith

Hii mark? Im listed under visa subclass 573. .. but im doing chemical engineering which says look into note 25, note 25 doesnt list subclass 573 !

Rajesh

Hi Mark , At the moment i do not have invitation to apply as I submitted my EOI ON 18th April 2017 in New South Walesas , i was falling short of 5 points and claiming it through state nomination , (55+5) do i still stand a chance for state nomination , I had applied under 190, also I, have a query , if i apply under 189 after getting a better score with my PTE , will I be able to claim 20 points ( 65) ,presently im claiming 10 and falling short of 5 points for 189 (55)… Read more »

Joe

Hi Mark,
I am a bit confused what visa I am now eligible for. My occupation is 221111 and it appears on the MLTSSL only. Does this mean I can apply for 189 but I cannot do 190 ?
Thanks

Rajesh

Sorry i forgot to mention i applied inder 190, also i have a query if i apply under 189 after getting a better score with my PTE i may be able to claim 20 points ( 65) ,presently im claming 10 and falling short of 5 points for 189 ( 55) and file my Eoi once tge PTE score is updated , where according to you I stand a better chance. Also do you think there will be any futher changes in July 2017 list as my skill is flaged and im worried about my Australian P.R to be granted.… Read more »

Rajesh

Hi Mark ,
I loged my EOI for ship officer on 18th april 2017 and the eoi has been accepted, i also have applied for state sponsorship from NSW as i was falling short of 5 points (55+5) do i still stand a chance for state nomination ?

Thank you
Rajesh

Sylvester

I was about to submit my application for an MBA program in Sydney, hoping to be able to get a PR once I’m done with my school. Now with all these changes, it looks like it is almost impossible? I’m a US citizen, with no family in AUS, so if I understood all what I read correctly, the only way to get a PR would be through a marriage?

Richa

Hi Mark,
According to the 19th April skilled occupation lists update,my occupation has been removed from skilled occupation list and it is neither on STSOL nor on MLTSSL.I got a positive skill assessment from ACS for Web Developer (261212) on 10th April,2017.Can you please guide me that what should be the next best move regarding my further process as I’m bit confused about it.Is there any ways out for the same dilemma.
My dream of Australia permanent residency visa seems to be shattered.If possible guide me on the same as I’m not able to decide what should be done now.
Regards,
Richa

Lin

Dear Mark,

I am a foreign solicitor and would like to apply for PR via the independent skilled visa (subclass 189). Do I need to secure any state nomination or sponsorship? Any other requirements that I need to fulfill apart from the assessment?

Thank you so much for your time.

Thanks,
Lin

Marc

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the great update !

Do you have any idea about when will the ceiling of occupations be published for the next financial year?

Cheers,

danny

My company has applied for 457 but now with all the changes I’ll fall under STSOL, so with this i have 2 years + 2 years renewal option. However, does this mean this end of road for me to apply for a PR? is this close ended opportunity because im under STSOL? or can I still apply PR under point based system?

I’m concerned and your help is very much appriciated

Priyans Brahmbhatt

Hi,

Can you please help. I want to know for subclass 186: marketing specialist occupation, do I need to have all the requirements fulfilled as per note 10.

I mean is it same for 457 and 186.

Your help is really appreciated.

Thanks

Jules

Hi Mark,

I have received an EOI through state sponsorship for 190 but have yet to submit my PCC and medical reports to DIBP. If my occupation has been removed from the list, will my application for 190 be affected?

Thanks for your advice.

Kind regards,
Jules

Juvel

Hi Sir Mark, thanks for the update! anyway, could please clarify if there is a two ** in my category? what does this mean? is 189 visa is not possible anymore for two ** category? im 233511 by the way.

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