2017 – 2018 Skilled Occupations List (SOL)

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2. Dear Mark,

   In the CSOL available on the dip website the electronics engineer is not available even though it is available in the MLTSSL list . Can this be the reason that it reached its ceiling value? Your expert opinion will be highly regarded.

   Apart from this these 16 occupation which were not removed but given restricted for some visas class ? What is your prediction for their future in 2017 ~2018 list.

   Thanks in advance

   Regards

   Max khan

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   • Hi Max, the reason it has reached its ceiling is because all the places allocated for the 2016-2017 migration year have been utilised. There is no link between the ceilings and the lists the occupations appear on. As for my prediction. I think it is highly likely that some of the flagged occupations will be removed, however beyond that, it’s very difficult to say as it would be simply speculation at this time.

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3. Mark,

   Can you please let me know when can we expect the new MLTSSL list for the year 2017-2018.

   Best,

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4. Hi Mark,

   I’m a Sales & Marketing Manager for an Italian winery in Asia currently, I’m thinking about applying for Marketing Specialist 225113 in Australia, I’m wondering if there’s a limitation to the industries for this job, can wine marketing/trading be included?

   Thank you so much!
   Chen

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   • The competencies are more important than the industries Chen, check out the competency requirements of this occupation here.

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5. Hi Mark

   Please can you tell me that where I can get details requirements against each category like the education, experience ilets score extra so that I can choose the best one to which I ful fill the requirements

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   • Hi Anniya, do you have a particular visa or occupation in mind? It will help narrow down the options

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6. Hi Mark,
   What are the chances for electronics engineer & telecommunication engineer to be on 2017- 2018 SOL?

   Thank you.

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   • Almost impossible to say Ven, What I would say though is that the flagged occupations are less likely to appear. Electronics engineer is flagged. See here for the full list of occupations flagged for removal https://gettingdownunder.com/2017-2018-sol-jobs-list/

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     • Thank you for your prompt reply.

       i can see that Electronics engineer is flagged but what are the chances for telecommunication engineer?

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       • Hi mate. Well, there has been no indicators that the occupation will be removed so I would hope that it stays.

         Keep in mind though that nothing is guaranteed in this space. The Australian Immigration department are known to change things without warning.

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         • Thank you very much Mike.

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         • I’m confused. Is this the MLTSSL for July 2017 to July 2018 or not? Because on one hand, this says to be the MLTSSL 2017-2018, but on the other hand, there are all those flagged occupations for 2017-2018 that appear on this MLTSSL 2017-2018 and you are expressing some concerns they may not be on the MLTSSL 17-18.

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         • Sorry for any confusion Jason. This is the current list (at time of typing) however the list is going to be updated (again) between now and the 1st July.

           We’ll update this list as the Australian Immigration department updates theirs.

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7. Hi Mark,
   Thanks for the reply but to specific 39.4 years will be considered in 32-39 (inclusive) or 40-44 (inclusive) .In which categogry it will fall.

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8. Hi Mark,
   My DOB is 15 -07-1978,so if i apply in the month of july for skill asessment ,as per point calculation shall get 25 points or 15 point.
   please share the reference point if any.

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   • Hi Inder, Your visa application will be assessed on your points at the time of invitation so the number of points will be governed by the date when you receive an invitation following lodgement of your EOI.

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9. Hi,
   I loged an EOI as an External Auditor (221213), but in this new MTSSL this occupation is not listed, will it have an impact on my invitation chances? Will I need to change my nominated occupation to that of a Gerneral Accountant(221111)?
   Thank You.

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   • Yes Sudan, you will need an occupation on the MTSSL, without you will not receive an invitation.

     All the best

     Mark

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10. Hi Mark,

    Its really nice to see such a crisp n quick replies from u for all queries! Really appreciated!
    Im a electronic n telecomm engineer and have 11 years exp in software engineering..
    Whts the best suited role for me as per SOL?
    Also would like to understand from a PR process perspective.. from where to start?
    Im little confused n like to know whr to start..
    skill assessment – wht i need to do for this? Any agency will help me in getting this done?
    EOI – when can i apply this? After skill assessment or even i can do it first and skill assessment can be later?
    My spouse is a MBA Finanace.. will it help me to get additional 5 points?
    Visa type- whoch visa suitable for my profile 189 or 190?
    Sorry for such a long writing.. but trying to get my confusion clear.. thanks in advance!

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    • Hi Ashie, give this article a go with regards to completing your EOI

      https://gettingdownunder.com/job-australian-sol-what-next/

      With regards to the best-suited role. Best way to check this is to google the name of the occupations you are interested in, followed by the anzsco code listed on the occupations iist

      Eg

      Software Engineer 261313 will bring up the top result for the abs website which define the key tasks and criteria associated with each role.

      The software engineer example I mentioned earlier will bring up this result

      Use this approach to check multiple occupations you think might be a fit and then identify the job that will be the best fit for you.

      Your spouses MBA will not help you get an extra 5 points (usually the occupation of your spouse will, not their qualifications).

      Hope this helps. Please post in our forums if you have extra questions as it helps me keep a better track in there :)

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      • Thx.. let m start discussion in other forum u mentioned above

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11. Hi
    My occuption is on the STSOL; my agent is telling me to apply 189 visa; is that possible ? if not , what are my options?

    i am Aircraft maintenance engineer.

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    • Hi Med, you will need a job on the MLTSSL to be able to qualify for one of the permanent visas like the 189 visa. If you were wanting to go down the skilled stream then you will be limited o the shorter term options available under the TSS visa scheme.

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12. Hi Mark,

    The list published after 17 April, will changes will the occupations be removed.
    Cartographer is a Flagged occupation will it be remove or added

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    • Ashu, I have no idea, we should find out in the net few weeks when the updated list is published.

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      • Hi Mark,

        Thank you for the Crisp reply.
        Can you please let me know if the final list for 201-2018 has been published along with the Quota for each category.
        Thanks,

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13. Hi mark
    I was wondering if an applicant has a good chance of getting invited if he has an occupation from stsol ? or will each state in Australia come up with a separate occupation list ??

    Also when should an applicant send an eoi to dibp (have they started accepting EOIs according to new rules 20 april 2017)
    Please guide me
    Thank you

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    • Hi Ajay, only one STSOL is published across all states however each state may choose which of these roles they choose to sponsor. EOI’s can be registered at any time and remain valid for a period of two years.

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14. Hi Mark,

    I have submitted my EOI with 65 points in Feb 2017 for 189 Visa as Engineering Technologist and waiting for the invite. I would like to know on the possibilities of getting additional 5 partner points to better my chances of an early invite in July. My spouse has done B.Sc in Zoology and Masters in Marine Biology. I see the occupation “Marine Biologist” listed in the STSOL. My occupation Engineering Technologist also appear in STSOL. Can I go with the skill assessment for her with her qualification? She has has no relevant working experience though. Please suggest. Thanks in advance.

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    • Hi Nikhil, the 189 Visa is a permanent residency visa, however, the STSOL is a Short Term Skilled Occupations List designed to support short-term 2 – 4-year visa assignments. Your occupation is on the MLTSSL (Medium Long Term list) however your spouses (as you rightly state) is on the short term visa list. On this basis, I’m unsure if you will be able to use the fact your wife has an occupation on the STSOL to claim extra points for a PR visa. Probably best to check with the Aussie migration department to be sure. See the link here

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15. Hi mark
    I was wondering if an applicant has a good chance of getting invited if he has an occupation from stsol ? or will each state in Australia come up with a separate occupation list ??

    Also when should an applicant send an eoi to dibp (have they started accepting EOIs according to new rules 20 april 2017)
    Please guide me
    Thank you

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16. Hi Mark,

    I have Applied for Visa in the month of Oct 2016 but now as per new STSOL list my occupation is permanently removed will it impact my case and how much time is expected to get visa .

    Thanks in Advance
    Raj

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    • Hi Raj, when you say applied, did you register an Expression of Interest for an Australian PR visa? If you have yet to receive and an invitation to apply then you will be impacted unfortunately. https://gettingdownunder.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=moderated#comments-form

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17. Hi Mark, Is it worth submitting a 186 application now for a job that will not be on the Medium skills after March 2018, but is currently in the short term list? I’m of the opinion that it will be rejected unless it’s processed before March 2018 which seems unrealistic given typical processing times. The job is Marketing Specialist. Thanks in advance.

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    • I think you have almost answered your own question there Barney! I’m unsure where you are getting the information that the job won’t be on the list after March 2018 though as I’ve not aware of the updated lists being published at the time of typing…

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18. The list only specifies the occupations that will be in the SOL during 2017-2018. When will the occupation ceilings for this SOL be announced ?

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    • Hi Mani, we expect the new occupation ceilings to be published in the next few weeks.

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      • Thanks mark for the prompt response. Additionally, do you expect any reduction in the cut off score for the pro rata occupations particularly (external auditor) ? As during 2016-2017 remained it remained throughout at 70. My score currently is 65. Please guide

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19. Hi Mark, thanks for your post. I’m currently holding a 457 visa which was granted in July 2016. My occupation is Restaurant manager which in the Short term list from now on. So do I just need to work two years under the same position and then apply 186 – permanent resident visa as the change of 457 visa on 19th April will not affect people holding 457 visa prior 19th April? thank you

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    • That’s the case if we assume that’s what the Australian government means by ‘grandfathered Calvin. See here for a little moon the 457 to PR subject: https://gettingdownunder.com/457-visa-pr/

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20. Dear Mark

    Hi Mark, Thanks for updating

    I am preparing 189, 190 as an accountant

    Every year, there is a rumor, accountant will be removed from SOL

    According to your SOL Lists post, Accountant is still valid for 189 for the year ending June 2018?

    Regards
    Suchan

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    • Hi Suchan, there has been a suggestion that a final review of this list will be undertaken before July 1, 2017, so I would wait until the list is 100% finalised before assuming that the Accountancy roles will remain. With that said, I don;t anticipate a significant change to this list, however, recent events have also taught be differently!

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      • Thanks for kind Reply Mark
        Then what do u expect the quarter number for the next year’s round
        Positive or Negative ?

        Regards
        Suchan

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        • I’d rather not speculate Suchan, you might as well flip a coin :)

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21. Hello sir , I have completed B.Sc. in chemistry recently. I just want to know that which subject i should pursue further in masters to get the job of chemistry technician.Is there any subject related to public health in SOL list????

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    • Hi Hem, take a look here for the current list of skills, commensurate with the qualifications and experience for a chemistry technician. This should help you identify any skills you don’t currently possess and therefore the subjects to pursue to fill this gap.

      Hope this helps

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22. Hello sir ,i want to study masters of counselling which is coming under the short term occupation list and i am an international student. Would it be safe to invest in australia with the goal of settling there ?

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    • Hi Erika, I wish I could answer that question however as I can’t be 100% sure I think you need to be comfortable with the options yourself before making the decision.

      As we have all seen this week, a lot can change in a very short time when it comes to Australian Migration

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23. Hi Mark,
    I have just initiated my 189 visa application with submission of my skill sets to skillselect.Iam a Mechanical Engineer and noticed that its appearing in the recently released MLTSSL.My Q is that can we expect a revised MLTSSL again in July’17 or the 19th April list would remain valid for 2017/18.

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    • Hi Swaraj, all we know at this time is that the MLTSSL will be reviewed and a final version of the list will be published in time for the new migration year starting 1st July. At the time of typing, it’s difficult to tell what changes will be considered, unfortunately. For now, you have done the right thing by initiating your application.

      Best of luck!

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24. Hello sir , im an international student seeking to broaden my horizons by coming to australia. My occupation is now coming in the short term skilled list. Is it still a safe bet to apply to australia with the dream of settling there one day ?

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    • Hi Asha, if you want to experience living in Australia then I would go for it. If you qualify for a 4-year visa then a lot can change and the occupation may become a permanent option. With that said, recent events demonstrate that there are no guarantees, unfortunately.

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25. hi mark,

    i am currently doing MBA program form Darwin only one semester left. in previous month i assists my degree from Engineer Australia in Chemical Engineering. and i have also 3 years overseas experience. no i am worry that chemical engineer will be removed from SOL list in July? and what can i do to apply 189 visa, thanks

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    • Hasan, it is what it is, unfortunately.

      There is no guarantee that Chemical engineer will be removed from the list, however, if it is, you will still need to have an occupation on the MLTSSL to qualify down the 189 visa path so your options might be limited. There are no workarounds unfortunately so I would wait to see what July brings.

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26. Hi Mark,

    My question is regards to any individuals currently on a 457 visa (granted prior to 17 April 2017). Will they be impacted by the changes to the 186 visa come March 2018? I understand the new law stipulates that 186 visa applications will be underpinned by the MLTSSL however will this be the case too for someone transitioning from a 457 to 186 visa and not a direct entry 186 visa applicant? In particular if the person can only apply for 186 down the track well over March 2018. Do you have any clarification on this particular issue? Thank you very much.

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    • Hi Dawn

      Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and immigration minister Peter Dutton said people currently on 457 visas would have their conditions “grandfathered”, implying that their current visas were not at risk.

      But it remains unclear how people currently on 457 visas will be treated once their current visas expire, when they attempt to apply for permanent residency or to extend their expired visa; whether they will be assessed under the conditions that existed when they first obtained their 457 visa, or whether they will revert to the new system.

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27. Hi Mark,
    Accountant General is part of MTSSL. Does this mean that it will remain in the list for PR invitations for 2017-18 or could it still be excluded from the list after review?
    Thanks

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    • Hi Tayyab, I expect it should remain until at least the end of 2017. The occupations list and migration year are now a little out of sync (the migration year runs from 1 July to 30 June the following year. However I don’t anticipate the list being updated only a few months after it’s release.

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28. Hi Mark,

    I am intrested in applying for state nomination in Victoria as a Phd graduate. I am a Mathematician.
    I used to live in Melbourne for almost a year and studied there also for Certificate 3 and 4 in Business when I first arrived here. My husband and I have relatives in Melbourne but we currently living in Sydney because I am doing my Phd, and that is the reason why we came here ad left Melbourne.

    Now my question is if we have to move in Melbourne first before applying for state nomination because I do not have a job offer. And I think that if you live in other state you have to provide a job offer if you want state nomination in Victoria.

    Thank you in advance a lot.

    Regrads,
    Evangelia.

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    • Hi Evangelia, I’m unsure where you read this information. Check here for the Criteria for Victoria state sponsorship: http://www.liveinvictoria.vic.gov.au/visas-and-immigrating/skilled-visas/skilled-nominated-visa-subclass-190#.WPoS0VN97GI

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29. Hi Mark, Up until Tuesday the company I work for here in the UK but are global head office is in Brisbane were going to sponsor me on a 457 Visa as ICT Trainer. Now with the announcement of this being scrapped they have said they can still sponsor me but only on the STSOL giving me 2 years, then reapply whilst on shore for another 2 years and then if I wanted longer I would have to go offshore for this to be done.

    Does this all mean the dream my wife and I had of setting ourselves up permanently in Australia is over? The second 2 year visa I’m guessing has no guarantees of being approved, especially as I’m a specific trainer of a system that isn’t prevalent in Australia but after 2 initial years of training could be done by an Australian national if I’ve done my job write.

    My wife is a 50 year old fitness instructor and I can see no way of using her profession as a long term way to make our dreams happen.

    Any advice you can offer would be gratefully received.

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    • I’m afraid the Short Term Visa options appear to be the only option available at this time Iain, though keep in mind that further options could be opened up for you over the coming years. 4 years is a long time when it comes to Australian migration policy and the occupations it considers in demand. (Appreciating, of course, there is a big upheaval risk to take into consideration here).

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30. Hello, and thanks for this detailed piece of info. My question is, I’m uncertain as for the applicability of the new MLTSSL list. Is it for year 2017-2018, applicable from 1st of July?
    Thanks a lot for your answer, as I’m not sure I clearly found the “validity” of this list on the Internet yet.
    Regards,
    Sev

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    • Hi Sevy, the new list came into effect the day after the legislation was published. As such this list is effective from 19 April. Although the STSOL list ( the list being used for the 2 – 4 year TSS visa classes) is going to be reviewed regularly (every 6 months) I don’t anticipate any changes to the MLTSS list in the short term.

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      • Thank you! I read that some people think the MSTSS will be updated again end of June as usual, which I thought was strange as it is indeed too short term. Your answer totally makes sense. Thanks :)

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31. Hii mark? Im listed under visa subclass 573. .. but im doing chemical engineering which says look into note 25, note 25 doesnt list subclass 573 !

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    • Hi Danith, the subclass 573 visa closed for new applications on 1 July 2016 so I assume you are already here in Australia on one?

      If this is the case, you will need to apply for one of the visa classes that is applicable to your occupation (eg 189 Visa) and go through the same point testing process and meet the same criteria as the other applicants.

      As the 573 visa is closed, supporting information online is limited however there doesn’t appear to be a natural migration from the 573 to one of the PR Visa classes (especially after these recent changes) so it is likely you will need to go down the route I have suggested.

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32. Hi Mark ,

    At the moment i do not have invitation to apply as I submitted my EOI ON 18th April 2017 in New South Walesas , i was falling short of 5 points and claiming it through state nomination , (55+5) do i still stand a chance for state nomination , I had applied under 190, also I, have a query , if i apply under 189 after getting a better score with my PTE , will I be able to claim 20 points ( 65) ,presently im claiming 10 and falling short of 5 points for 189 (55) and file my EOI once thePTE score is updated , where according to you I stand a better chance. Also do you think there will be any futher changes in July 2017 list as my skill is flaged and im worried about my Australian P.R to be granted.

    Thank you
    Rajesh

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33. Hi Mark,
    I am a bit confused what visa I am now eligible for. My occupation is 221111 and it appears on the MLTSSL only. Does this mean I can apply for 189 but I cannot do 190 ?
    Thanks

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    • Hi Joe, reviewing the Departmental website, 221111 is flagged with *** asterixis.

      *** means that the occupation is excluded certain circumstances, however the caveats only apply to the Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (Subclass 457) programme:

      There is no further exclusion for this occupation so my interpretation is that both the 189 and 190 visa types could apply to this occupation type.

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34. Sorry i forgot to mention i applied inder 190, also i have a query if i apply under 189 after getting a better score with my PTE i may be able to claim 20 points ( 65) ,presently im claming 10 and falling short of 5 points for 189 ( 55) and file my Eoi once tge PTE score is updated , where according to you I stand a better chance. Also do you think there will be any futher changes in July 2017 list as my skill is flaged and im worried about my Australian P.R to be granted. Thanks , Rajesh again !

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35. Hi Mark ,
    I loged my EOI for ship officer on 18th april 2017 and the eoi has been accepted, i also have applied for state sponsorship from NSW as i was falling short of 5 points (55+5) do i still stand a chance for state nomination ?

    Thank you
    Rajesh

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    • Rajesh, where you say your EOI has been ‘accepted’ does this mean you have received an invitation to apply?

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      • Hi Mark ,

        At the moment i do not have invitation to apply as I submitted my EOI ON 18th April 2017 in New South Wales
        Sorry , i forgot to mention i applied inder 190, also i have a query if i apply under 189 after getting a better score with my PTE i may be able to claim 20 points ( 65) ,presently im claming 10 and falling short of 5 points for 189 ( 55) and file my Eoi once tge PTE score is updated , where according to you I stand a better chance. Also do you think there will be any futher changes in July 2017 list as my skill is flaged and im worried about my Australian P.R to be granted. Thanks , Rajesh again !

        I loged my EOI for ship officer on 18th april 2017 and the eoi has been accepted, i also have applied for state sponsorship from NSW as i was falling short of 5 points (55+5) do i still stand a chance for state nomination ?

        Thank you
        Rajesh

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        • Hi Rajesh. It’s really difficult to say. You might have 65 points and apply for one visa type and 20 people ahead of you might be waiting with 70 points so will be invited to apply first

          On the other hand, you might apply for a different visa class with 60 points and there might only be one other applicant with more points meaning you are higher up in the ‘queue’ and more likely to get an invite.

          The point I’m trying to make is that the getting the points and meeting the other criteria to apply are only one part of the process governing the likelihood of success.

          The other candidates applying for the same visas and their points will also impact your chances.

          Consider it a little like applying for a job, Your resume might highlight that you have all the skills and experience, however without knowing the skills and experience of the other job applicants It’s very difficult to forecast if you will get an interview.

          I Hope this makes sense and good luck!

          Mark

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36. I was about to submit my application for an MBA program in Sydney, hoping to be able to get a PR once I’m done with my school. Now with all these changes, it looks like it is almost impossible? I’m a US citizen, with no family in AUS, so if I understood all what I read correctly, the only way to get a PR would be through a marriage?

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    • Hi Sylvester. It’s certainly a lot more difficult now than it has ever been. Marriage could be an option however in the years it would take to find someone and qualify down this path, the goalposts will likely change anyway!

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37. Hi Mark,
    According to the 19th April skilled occupation lists update,my occupation has been removed from skilled occupation list and it is neither on STSOL nor on MLTSSL.I got a positive skill assessment from ACS for Web Developer (261212) on 10th April,2017.Can you please guide me that what should be the next best move regarding my further process as I’m bit confused about it.Is there any ways out for the same dilemma.
    My dream of Australia permanent residency visa seems to be shattered.If possible guide me on the same as I’m not able to decide what should be done now.
    Regards,
    Richa

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    • Hi Richa, which visa path were you following. Had you submitted an Expression of interest and had you received an invitation to apply?

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      • I also have the same issue… can you please suggest. I have not yet submitted the EOI

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        • If you have not submitted an EOI and your occupation is no longer a qualifying occupation then I’m afraid your options will be limited unfortunately.

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          • Hi Mark,
            I got your point but my concern is that on ANZSCO website it’s showing that Web Developer occupation is still may be eligible for NT and SA.The occupation Multimedia Specialist is also having the exact job duties as of Web Developer.So can I still file EOI for Web Developer or Multimedia Specialist and expect a nomination further.

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      • I have not submitted an expression of Interest yet and have received positive skill assessment from ACS for Web Developer on 10th April,2017 which has been removed from skilled occupation list.I was planning to submit EOI this week only but got this new update.What I’m supposed to do now to proceed further.

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38. Dear Mark,

    I am a foreign solicitor and would like to apply for PR via the independent skilled visa (subclass 189). Do I need to secure any state nomination or sponsorship? Any other requirements that I need to fulfill apart from the assessment?

    Thank you so much for your time.

    Thanks,
    Lin

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39. Hi Mark,

    Thanks for the great update !

    Do you have any idea about when will the ceiling of occupations be published for the next financial year?

    Cheers,

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    • Hi Marc, I would expect them to become available in the next few weeks hopefully. The official sources are a little vague unfortunately.

      All the best

      Mark

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40. My company has applied for 457 but now with all the changes I’ll fall under STSOL, so with this i have 2 years + 2 years renewal option. However, does this mean this end of road for me to apply for a PR? is this close ended opportunity because im under STSOL? or can I still apply PR under point based system?

    I’m concerned and your help is very much appriciated

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    • It depends really on where you are with your 457 Visa app and the occupation you’ve applied under Danny. The PR options now appear very limited for people coming to Australia under one of the temporary working classes unfortunately.

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      • Hi Mark,

        Thanks for your reply, my application was lodged 3 weeks ago so its still waiting to be processed. My occupation falls under STSOL with new lists.
        It sound wrong to have no option to leave the country after working for 4 years. this is not a business trip 4 years of life. So im very confused if i should drop the plans to come to australia

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      • More info FYI here: https://gettingdownunder.com/457-visa-abolished-replaced-new-tss-visa/

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41. Hi,

    Can you please help. I want to know for subclass 186: marketing specialist occupation, do I need to have all the requirements fulfilled as per note 10.

    I mean is it same for 457 and 186.

    Your help is really appreciated.

    Thanks

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    • Hi Priyan, the note says “In relation to specifications of occupations for a Subclass 457 – Temporary Work (Skilled) visa” so my interpretation is that this comment does not specifically relate to the 186 Visa class.

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      • Thanks Mark. I will dig more to find out
        Many thanks for your reply.

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      • Hi Mark,

        Thanks for your feedback. I checked and it turns out to be that ENS 186 is having the same effect regarding occupation as 457.

        Though I satisfy all the caveats re marketing specialist role except one which is 1 million turnover.

        My organisation is non profit making. Can I get exemption for that.

        Thanks for being really helpful.

        Regards,

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42. Hi Mark,

    I have received an EOI through state sponsorship for 190 but have yet to submit my PCC and medical reports to DIBP. If my occupation has been removed from the list, will my application for 190 be affected?

    Thanks for your advice.

    Kind regards,
    Jules

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    • Hi Jules, if you have already received an invite from the DIBP then your application should not be affected by this recent announcement.

      All the best

      Mark

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      • Thank you, Mark.

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43. Hi Sir Mark, thanks for the update! anyway, could please clarify if there is a two ** in my category? what does this mean? is 189 visa is not possible anymore for two ** category? im 233511 by the way.

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    • Hi Juvel. We don;t have the ** on our list, however, the Australian Migration Website states:

      Skilled-Regional (Provisional) (subclass 489), if the applicant is not nominated by a State or Territory government agency These occupations are indicated via ‘** asterisks’.

      For your occupation, it would appear that the role qualifies for 189 Visa Sponsorship

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      • Thanks for your reply Mark, since Industrial Engineer 233511 is with ** now, I can only apply for the Visa 189 as you said. I have actually submitted mg EOI last March 11, 2017 and have not yet invited with 65 points. I just wonder, is this 2017-2018 are FINAL or is it still a Draft until the Final List on July 01, 2017?
        What can you say below? Is this true?
        “Occupations being on the MLTSSL but not on the STSOL is certainly unexpected, and we expect there will be some changes to the MLTSSL from 1 July with these occupations quite possibly being removed from the MLTSSL also.
        The 16 occupations on the MLTSSL but not on the STSOL are as follows:”

        Project Builder ANZSCO 133112
        Production Manager (Mining) ANZSCO 133513
        Medical Administrator ANZSCO 134211
        Ship’s Engineer ANZSCO 231212
        Ship’s Master ANZSCO 231213
        Ship’s Officer ANZSCO 231214
        Chemical Engineer ANZSCO 233111
        Materials Engineer ANZSCO 233112
        Electronics Engineer ANZSCO 233411
        Industrial Engineer ANZSCO 233511
        Production or Plant Engineer ANZSCO 233513
        Civil Engineering Technician ANZSCO 312212
        Telecommunications Network Planner ANZSCO 313213
        Pressure Welder ANZSCO 322312
        Stonemason ANZSCO 331112
        Electrical Linesworker ANZSCO 342211

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        • Hi Juvel, I am not aware of any information (from an official government source) being published which would suggest that the MLTSSL occupations might change. At thus time I would be inclined to consider it speculation only.

          The STSOL (used for short term 2 – 4-year visas) on the other hand will most likely be updated with the Australian government already flagging that the occupations on this list will be reviewed approximately every 6 months.

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          • Hi Mark, what do you think about this statement on border.gov.au:
            “Changes from July 2017…
            – Occupations lists: The STSOL will be further reviewed based on advice from the Department of Employment. The MLTSSL will be revised based on outcomes from the Department of Education and Training’s 2017-18 SOL review.”
            Source: https://www.border.gov.au/WorkinginAustralia/Documents/reforms-australia-permanent-employer-sponsored-migration-programme.pdf

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          • Thanks for sharing that Daniel. I had not read that until now.

            It’s interesting. I understood that he STSOl would be reviewed however I’m surprised that the MLTSSL would be reviewed in July also. From my perspective. The Australian Government would have reviewed both lists prior to making the decision to remove over 200 occupations. You have to consider what source they used when selecting which of the 200 jobs were removed from the list??

            I understand that the department of education has already made their submissions so if they do ‘revise’ the MLTSSL in July, I would hope it’s not a significant revision.

            Thanks for sharing this source Daniel!

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