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MLTSSL – Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List

View the 2017 – 2018 MLTSSL – Updated 20 January 2018

The MTSSL or the Medium and Long-Term Strategic Skills List is a list, published by the Australian government, of occupations that qualify for consideration as part of an Applicants Australian Visa Application.

If you are looking to emigrate to Australia under one of the permanent skilled Visa Schemes, you will need to have an occupation posted on the MLTSSL.

Occupations on the MLTSSL

Occupations that appear on the Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL) are listed below in alphabetical order for ease of reference. This list is valid from 20 January 2018

Medium and Long‑term Strategic Skills List
Item Column 1

Occupation

Column 2

ANZSCO code

Column 3

Inapplicability conditions (see footnotes below this table)

1 chief executive or managing director 111111 5
2 corporate general manager 111211 5
3 horse breeder 121316 9, 10
4 construction project manager 133111
5 engineering manager 133211
6 child care centre manager 134111
7 nursing clinical director 134212
8 primary health organisation manager 134213
9 welfare centre manager 134214
10 faculty head 134411
11 chief information officer 135111
12 environmental manager 139912
13 musician (instrumental) 211213
14 accountant (general) 221111 6, 19, 21
15 management accountant 221112 6, 19, 21
16 taxation accountant 221113 6, 19, 21
17 external auditor 221213
18 internal auditor 221214
19 actuary 224111
20 statistician 224113
21 economist 224311
22 land economist 224511
23 valuer 224512
24 management consultant 224711 19, 21, 23
25 architect 232111
26 landscape architect 232112
27 surveyor 232212
28 cartographer 232213
29 other spatial scientist 232214
30 chemical engineer 233111
31 materials engineer 233112
32 civil engineer 233211
33 geotechnical engineer 233212
34 quantity surveyor 233213
35 structural engineer 233214
36 transport engineer 233215
37 electrical engineer 233311
38 electronics engineer 233411
39 industrial engineer 233511
40 mechanical engineer 233512
41 production or plant engineer 233513
42 mining engineer (excluding petroleum) 233611
43 petroleum engineer 233612
44 aeronautical engineer 233911
45 agricultural engineer 233912
46 biomedical engineer 233913
47 engineering technologist 233914
48 environmental engineer 233915
49 naval architect 233916
50 engineering professionals (nec) 233999
51 agricultural consultant 234111
52 agricultural scientist 234112
53 forester 234113
54 chemist 234211
55 food technologist 234212
56 environmental consultant 234312
57 environmental research scientist 234313
58 environmental scientists (nec) 234399
59 geophysicist 234412
60 hydrogeologist 234413
61 life scientist (general) 234511
62 biochemist 234513
63 biotechnologist 234514
64 botanist 234515
65 marine biologist 234516
66 microbiologist 234517
67 zoologist 234518
68 life scientists (nec) 234599
69 medical laboratory scientist 234611
70 veterinarian 234711
71 conservator 234911
72 metallurgist 234912
73 meteorologist 234913
74 physicist 234914
75 natural and physical science professionals (nec) 234999
76 early childhood (pre‑primary school) teacher 241111
77 secondary school teacher 241411
78 special needs teacher 241511
79 teacher of the hearing impaired 241512
80 teacher of the sight impaired 241513
81 special education teachers (nec) 241599
82 university lecturer 242111 1
83 medical diagnostic radiographer 251211
84 medical radiation therapist 251212
85 nuclear medicine technologist 251213
86 sonographer 251214
87 optometrist 251411
88 orthotist or prosthetist 251912
89 chiropractor 252111
90 osteopath 252112
91 occupational therapist 252411
92 physiotherapist 252511
93 podiatrist 252611
94 audiologist 252711
95 speech pathologist 252712
96 general practitioner 253111
97 specialist physician (general medicine) 253311
98 cardiologist 253312
99 clinical haematologist 253313
100 medical oncologist 253314
101 endocrinologist 253315
102 gastroenterologist 253316
103 intensive care specialist 253317
104 neurologist 253318
105 paediatrician 253321
106 renal medicine specialist 253322
107 rheumatologist 253323
108 thoracic medicine specialist 253324
109 specialist physicians (nec) 253399
110 psychiatrist 253411
111 surgeon (general) 253511
112 cardiothoracic surgeon 253512
113 neurosurgeon 253513
114 orthopaedic surgeon 253514
115 otorhinolaryngologist 253515
116 paediatric surgeon 253516
117 plastic and reconstructive surgeon 253517
118 urologist 253518
119 vascular surgeon 253521
120 dermatologist 253911
121 emergency medicine specialist 253912
122 obstetrician and gynaecologist 253913
123 ophthalmologist 253914
124 pathologist 253915
125 diagnostic and interventional radiologist 253917
126 radiation oncologist 253918
127 medical practitioners (nec) 253999
128 midwife 254111
129 nurse practitioner 254411
130 registered nurse (aged care) 254412
131 registered nurse (child and family health) 254413
132 registered nurse (community health) 254414
133 registered nurse (critical care and emergency) 254415
134 registered nurse (developmental disability) 254416
135 registered nurse (disability and rehabilitation) 254417
136 registered nurse (medical) 254418
137 registered nurse (medical practice) 254421
138 registered nurse (mental health) 254422
139 registered nurse (perioperative) 254423
140 registered nurse (surgical) 254424
141 registered nurse (paediatrics) 254425
142 registered nurses (nec) 254499
143 ICT business analyst 261111
144 systems analyst 261112
145 multimedia specialist 261211
146 analyst programmer 261311
147 developer programmer 261312
148 software engineer 261313
149 software and applications programmers (nec) 261399
150 ICT security specialist 262112
151 computer network and systems engineer 263111
152 telecommunications engineer 263311
153 telecommunications network engineer 263312
154 barrister 271111
155 solicitor 271311
156 clinical psychologist 272311
157 educational psychologist 272312
158 organisational psychologist 272313
159 psychologists (nec) 272399
160 social worker 272511
161 civil engineering draftsperson 312211
162 civil engineering technician 312212
163 electrical engineering draftsperson 312311
164 electrical engineering technician 312312
165 radio communications technician 313211
166 telecommunications field engineer 313212
167 telecommunications technical officer or technologist 313214
168 automotive electrician 321111
169 motor mechanic (general) 321211
170 diesel motor mechanic 321212
171 motorcycle mechanic 321213
172 small engine mechanic 321214
173 sheetmetal trades worker 322211
174 metal fabricator 322311
175 welder (first class) 322313
176 fitter (general) 323211
177 fitter and turner 323212
178 fitter‑welder 323213
179 metal machinist (first class) 323214
180 locksmith 323313
181 panelbeater 324111
182 bricklayer 331111
183 stonemason 331112
184 carpenter and joiner 331211
185 carpenter 331212
186 joiner 331213
187 painting trades worker 332211
188 glazier 333111
189 fibrous plasterer 333211
190 solid plasterer 333212
191 wall and floor tiler 333411
192 plumber (general) 334111
193 airconditioning and mechanical services plumber 334112
194 drainer 334113
195 gasfitter 334114
196 roof plumber 334115
197 electrician (general) 341111
198 electrician (special class) 341112
199 lift mechanic 341113
200 airconditioning and refrigeration mechanic 342111
201 technical cable jointer 342212
202 electronic equipment trades worker 342313
203 electronic instrument trades worker (general) 342314
204 electronic instrument trades worker (special class) 342315
205 chef 351311 7, 8
206 horse trainer 361112
207 cabinetmaker 394111
208 boat builder and repairer 399111
209 shipwright 399112
Positions for which occupation is inapplicable
Item Position
1 The position does not require a minimum of 2 years’ relevant work experience.
2 The position has a nominated base salary of less than AUD65,000.
3 (a) the position has a nominated base salary of less than AUD65,000; and

(b) if the person is to be transferred to fill the position—the transfer is not an intra‑corporate transfer to which an international trade obligation applies.

4 (a) the position has a nominated base salary of less than AUD80,000; and

(b) if the person is to be transferred to fill the position—the transfer is not an intra‑corporate transfer to which an international trade obligation applies.

5 (a) the position has a nominated base salary of less than AUD180,001; and

(b) if the person is to be transferred to fill the position—the transfer is not an intra‑corporate transfer to which an international trade obligation applies.

6 The position is a clerical, bookkeeper or accounting clerk position.
7 The position is involved in mass production in a factory setting.
8 The position is in a limited service restaurant.
9 The position predominantly involves responsibility for low‑skilled tasks.

Example 1:              Rostering, maintaining records, reception duties and allocating duties to
housekeepers, porters or doorpersons.

Example 2:              Fruit picking or packing or feeding of livestock or animals.

Example 3:              Truck driving.

10 The position is not located in regional Australia (within the meaning of subregulation 5.19(7) of the Regulations).
11 The position:

(a) is based in a front‑line retail setting; or

(b) predominantly involves direct client transactional interaction on a regular basis.

12 The position:

(a) is not a full‑time position; or

(b) is not based in a therapeutic setting; or

(c) involves the provision of non‑medical relaxation massage; or

(d) is in a retail setting.

14 The position:

(a) is not located in a commercial building or shopping centre environment; or

(b) predominantly involves managing the provision of only one particular service to a facility or managing one particular relationship.

Example: Managing the cleaning contract for a facility but not other contracts relevant
to the facility.

15 The position:

(a) is based in a front‑line retail setting; or

(b) is based in a call centre and does not require a significant technical knowledge of products; or

(c) predominantly involves selling educational courses to individual students.

16 The position relates to mobile phone repairs.
17 The position relates to mass or standardised production (as opposed to specialist production), including the following:

(a) a position based in a franchise or factory;

(b) a position that:

(i) involves full or partial production of food product for distribution to another location; or

(ii) predominantly involves the use of pre‑prepared food product from another location.

18 The position relates to animal husbandry, including caring for livestock on a farm.
19 The position is in a business that has an annual turnover of less than AUD1,000,000.
20 (a) the position is in a business that has an annual turnover of less than AUD1,000,000; and

(b) if the person is to be transferred to fill the position—the transfer is not an intra‑corporate transfer to which an international trade obligation applies.

21 The position is in a business that has fewer than 5 employees.
22 (a) the position is in a business that has fewer than 5 employees; and

(b) if the person is to be transferred to fill the position—the transfer is not an intra‑corporate transfer to which an international trade obligation applies.

23 The position has a nominated base salary of less than AUD90,000.

Written by Mark

As the founder of Getting Down Under, Mark is passionate about demystifying the process associated with a move to Australia.
Having launched Getting Down Under in early January 2006 and made the move to Australia from the UK in the same year, Mark continues to share resources and support for those looking for assitance, Getting Down Under.

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  1. Hi,

    I have my skill assessment from ACS (Australian Computer Society) for 485 post graduate visa. However, I don’t see this anywhere else if this occupation is suitable for the 485 visa, only on the ACS website. Is anyone in this world who can help me to clarify this?

  2. Hi Mark! Thank you for your informative write up.

    I am going to start my Masters in Actuarial Studies from this July. After completion, I will apply for 189/190 for Actuary. But I have zero experience as an actuary and my bachelor degree is not from Aus neither it is related to Actuary (its BBA in Finance). Will I still qualify for applying?

    If my bachelor degree is eligible my points will be:
    Age: 25pts+ IELTS: 10pts+ Experience: 0pt+ Education: Bachelor 15pts+ Australian Education:5pts+NAATI:5 pts= Total 60.

    Would appreciate your suggestion in this regards.

  3. Hi i must say its a great job that you are doing here thanks. I have a bachelors degree in Information Technology , Majoring in Computer networks. I noticed on the skilled list that Telecommunications Network Engineer, and Computer Networks and System Engineer falls under the MLTSSL class. I was wondering if i studied for this courses in Advance Diploma i would be eligible to apply for the class 485 graduate visa, Thanks.

  4. Hi Mark,
    I am from India, planning to apply for Bachelor of Sport and Exercise Science at James Cook University.
    Sport and Exercise Science doesn’t exist in MLTSSL. after completion of degree and PSW, if I find an employer who will sponsor for my work visa, I am I eligible to get the work visa?

    Thank You

  5. Hi Mark, I just finished masters of biotechnology and bioinformatics course. My occupation is in mltssl list under 457 visa. Does that mean I can’t apply for 485 visa? Or i can straight apply for 457 without a job. Can you please clear it up?

  6. Hi Mark,

    I have 3 year Diploma in Mechanical Engg. after secondary school and i have been working in NISSAN as a Automotive Technician from last 5 years.I have 7 each in IELTS also.Can I apply under 489?

  7. Hello to everyone. Actually i am new here and i want to apologize if i do some mistake. Anyway, my situation is this: i want to make claim for subclass visa 489- with option for sponsored relative. I have uncles there who live in AU from 15 years. But i have one question: in the goverment website is said that i need 4- 5 evaluation on general IELTS, but from the association who have to check my degree in there website said that they want 7 evaluation on academic IELTS. My question is- what kind of IELTS i need to be prepare and how i can know which is my exam? Thank you
    Tanya H.

  8. Hi Mark,

    I am applying for 189 category and my nominated occupation is Facilities Manager – 149913. This occupation is listed in the Legislative Instrument. However, when I am doing my Expression of Interest (EOI) for Australia with the occupation as Facilities Manager – 149913 it says “The client’s nominated occupation is not on the relevant occupation list for this subclass” even though it is there on the Legislative instrument. Is there some technical issue or I am misunderstanding something.

    Please Help

  9. Mr Mark,

    So Great what you did,
    I have a special case and I need your high gentle consideration and attention.
    I am graduated engineer (bachelor degree) in Tunisia since 2006.
    a– since 2007 to 2010 : I worked as engineer but no regulated situation: no paper or certificate to prove experience.
    b– since 2012 (more than 5 years) : I worked as a Vocational teacher, the situation is regulated and I have needed documents to prove .
    I started to assess as Vocational teacher (242211) but as you know it’s removed from the list so I canceled.
    my score is as follow :
    1)Age : 36 ====> 25 Pt
    2)Qualification : engineer ======> 15 Pt

    My questions are :
    1) Is it possible that the occupation 242211 come back again ? if not, What is the occupation, depending on my career and qualification, that I can assess for to get more score Points to reach 60 Pts (I think for example Education adviser 249111 ?? ) ?

    2) Is there a solution or alternative to prove the first part of my experience (because I am interested to work as engineer or technician not as a teacher when I arrive to Australia) ?

  10. Hi Mark, please help in finding the solution of my questions
    I have been working in a pharma company from the last 1.5 years in drug regulatory affairs. Am i eligible to apply for the PR in next 6 months?

  11. Hi Mark,

    I am an Internal Communications Manager with 4+ years of experience. can i apply for a visa 190 under Public Relations Professional 225311? Both professional are closely related and I would like to know if I can apply. let me know. thanks!

  12. Hi Mark,

    My spouse skill biotechnologist got positive assessment and she had 6 each in ielts but it seems this occupation got removed from the skill list.

    Do i still eligible to claim the points?

  13. Hi Mark,

    Sorry to bother you again (already asked you something last June!).

    I should have good news regarding my 189 VISA:
    1/ I have 31 years old (+30 points)
    2/ A Master Degree recognized by the Engineers Australia (my Assessing Authority) and linked to the occupation Engineering Technologist ANZSCO 233914 (+15 points)
    3/ +7 years of work experience recognized as skilled employment (+10 points)
    4/ +7 at the IELTS test (+10 points)

    With a total of 65 points, I should be eligible for the 189 VISA. But… after submitting my EOI, the final calculation gave me only 50 points. Reason being: the +15 points related to the Master Level (above point n°2) are not granted. I don’t know why because my Assessing Authority report clearly reads: “Your qualification obtained from the below institution has been assessed as comparable to the listed Australian Qualification Framework (AQF) level for the purposes of awarding points under the General Skilled Migration points test: AQF Level: Masters Degree”.

    Do you have any explanation? Is it a bug or maybe I did not fill my EOI correctly?
    I would be happy to send you by private email my Outcome letter from the Assessing Authority – Engineers Australia so you can see by yourself.

    Thank you so much for your help :)
    Alex

  14. Hello Mark, hope you are doing well. Wanted to start off by saying that you are doing brilliant work. I wanted to ask that i am interested in applying for the 189 visa and saw on border.gov website that they have added Economist to MLTSSL. Now the questions i have are, that by being on MLTSSL the occupation is guaranteed to be an eligible occupation for one to apply for 189 and secondly the list that is linked on this website does not include Economist in the MLTSSL list, i wanted to clarify that is that a mistake or have i made a mistake by thinking that Economist has been added to MLTSSL? Looking forward to your reply.

    Link where i found Economist on MLTSSL:
    https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/combined-stsol-mltssl

  15. Hi Mark,

    Hope you are well,

    I’m chemist and the occupation is avilable in the MLTSSL list ,Is that means I can apply for indepadant visa 189 ?

    Regards

  16. Hi Mark,
    I found this website useful so first thank you for all advices you provide..
    I am looking to apply for visa 189 under Zoologist or Environmental Scientists occupations. As of 1st July 2017, these two occupations are moved from STSOL to MLTSSL (http://www.border.gov.au/WorkinginAustralia/Pages/summary-of-1-july-2017-changes-to-list-of-eligible-skilled-occupations.aspx). Apparently I am eligible for visa 189. However, these two occupations are not mentioned in relevant legislative instrument (https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2017L00850). Its a little bit confusing as its not clear if these occupations are eligible for visa 189. Do you have any idea on this issue and why these lists are different? Thanks :-)
    Amad

  17. Hey Mark,

    I am here on 189 visa. I got a brother who is 23 years old and another brother who is 7 years old. I was thinking of getting my parents here on one of the parents visa. What is the most recommended visa for them?
    Because I had a few questions regarding the family point test. Would my 7 year old brother be counted in it (that he does not live in australia), which means that 50% of my parents children do not live in asutralia?
    And also if i got my parents a visa to live here, would my 7 year old brother get a visa with them or no?

  18. Hi Mark,
    I want to apply for ACT nomination and then Permanent residency. I am currently living in Canberra for 5 months for my PhD. My occupation is “University Lecturer”. I just want to know whether my occupation is still qualified for PR or Not? Thanks a lot.

  19. Dear mark
    I hope you will be in best part of your life.I have completed my PhD in the field of Medical Technology but I have 10 year experience as a (primary health organization manager).In my PhD i have completed my thesis on the issue of primary health in my community.Medical technology is also relevant to the primary health.Please guide me can i apply as a primary health organization manager?

  20. Hi sir
    I’m a ship officer and around two months ago I realized that there are opportunities for getting skilled visa sub-class 189 for occupations such as ship’s master, ships officer, and ship’s engineer. Actually I was planning to make my self ready and in a few month later try to apply for it, but after 1St July 2017 which list has updated, these occupation entirely removed from the mltssl list. Now I just had a question, which is there any chance in the future updates that these occupations being available again?!

    Many Tanx

  21. Hi Mark,

    Last December i completed biotechnology and bioinformatics masters at La trobe uni. So Now Im at 485 visa. What is the eligibility for me to apply for PR now?
    Thanks

  22. Hi Mark. I find Chemist is not on the MLTSSL list, even though on the DIBP I saw 23 occupations of SOL have been moved to the MLTSSL. I only find Chemist on the combined list for 457 visa. Does this means that chemist can only apply for this 457 visa?? Cannot apply for 189 or 190 at all? Thanks.
    Best regards,
    Robert

  23. Hi Mark,
    I suppose to apply for the Civil Engineering Technician 31221 via sub clause.it is there in MLTSSL.but when i go though the each separate Australian state web sites, it shows as available in only one state.therefore before applying i want to confirm whether this job further available or not.i searched occupation ceiling for 2017/18 and could not find.do you have any updates about that.please kindly advice me.

  24. Hi Mark,
    Greetings from Oman!!
    As you know GSM list is already updated on 1st July 17. I am wondering because i was expecting to apply 263111 occupation under GSM-190 SS. But as per updated list this occupation under MLTSSL not in STSOL. Can i apply for the same to get state nomination. ??
    Please suggest
    Thanks

    • Padma, go by the Legislative agreement. While previously there were only TWO skilled occupation lists being used across the migration programme, we now have a total of SEVEN skilled occupation lists as points of reference. The key point to note is that some occupations are available for one visa but not necessarily for another because the lists are different, although they share the same name – MLTSSL and STSOL.

      There has been plenty of confusion, especially if you refer to the Department of Immigration and Border Protection (DIBP) webpage, Summary of 1 July 2017 changes to the lists of eligible skilled occupations. The page mentions occupations added to the MLTSSL and so forth, but does not mention if it is applicable to the GSM MLTSSL, or the employer sponsored visas MLTSSL.

  25. Hi Mark.
    I am a teacher by profession. I have been working as an In charge of the department, Vice Principal, Principal and in Director level in educational institutions. Am I eligible for the category of Child Care Center Manager that is mentioned in MLTSSL(134111)?
    OR, for any other category in the?
    For your kind information I am 46.
    Thank you for patience hearing.
    Eagerly waiting for your reply.

    Regards,
    Mir Anwar

  26. Hi , i have a bachelor degree in oral and dental medicine from egypt then i applied for a diploma in health service management followed a master degree in the same field, does that qualifies me as a primary health organisation manager because i’m hoping to get my pr

  27. hi Mark
    i can see new science courses have been put on the mltssl, does this mean we can apply for independent visa 189, for example microbiology and biotecchnology. kindly reply
    efe

  28. Hi, Mark

    I am graduate in Electronics and Instrumentation Engineering having experience in Electrical and Instrumentation field planning to apply for PR. Please let me know which occupation is suitable for me to apply for PR in subclass 189.

  29. Hi Mark,

    Residential Care Officer is no longer in MTTSL but moved to STSOL. I will be working 2 years in my nomination field this September 2017 and I am 45 years. I am planning to apply for ENS 186 this September 2017.

    How does July 1 changes affects me?

    Your immediate response is highly appreciated

    Bes

    • Hi Bes, are you on a 457? If so you should fall under the ‘grandfathered’ provisions which we’re assuming (though this is still to be confirmed) means you won’t be impacted by the most recent changes.

  30. Hi Mark,
    My daughter has completed Biotechnology degree and now completing her masters in same discipline.
    Has Biotechnologist removed from MLTSSL in 1 st July commencement? If not as you mentioned in this listcould she apply Biotechnologist directly for graduate temporary visa? Her 1st visa was granted in May 2011.There care 2 different lists for MLTSSL. Pls verify this. Thanks

  31. Hi Mark

    I have a degree in human resources management and currently studying to become an Education Training Development Practitioner. I am extreamly sad that Human Resources was taken of the list.

    • Human Resource Manager remains on the STSOL, however, this will only allow maximum stays of 2 years, unfortunately, Luchay, hopefully, it will return in the future.

  32. Hii Mark,

    I received an Invitation to apply on 15 Feb 2017 against my EOI for Agricultural consultant profile. We (me and my spouse) had uploaded all the documents on 27 March 2017. Since then we are awaiting for our Visa.

    Does the changes in policies will further delay our visa grant or we may expect to get it in July itself.
    Your help would be highly appreciated.

      • Thanks for the help Mark!!

        One of my concern is that since its already been 3 months since I filed my application with DIBP, How long is it going to take to get the VISA??

  33. Hi Mark,

    This is a great article and website to get information. I do have a few questions that I hope can be answered or get any clarifications.

    I am an Electronics Engineering Graduate, I currently just finished my IELTS exam and I have submitted the requirements to the Governing body in Australia to get assessed on my Skills and Education. I am currently waiting for the results. However, I recently read that Electronics Engineering is one of the occupations that is flagged in MLTSSL and very much likely to be removed on the new MLTSSL (I’m still hoping that it wont get removed). Is it true that it has a very high chance of being removed?

    In the case that it does get removed, are there any other options for me to take besides visa 189 to migrate in Australia given my current skill set is not on the MLTSSL anymore?

    Thank you for the clarification.

    Sincerely,
    Stephen

  34. Hi Mark,

    I have applied for EOI (189) in earlier April with 70 points under General accounting and in 190 visa class with 75 points. My main concern is that I have claimed 5 points for 1 year work experience in Australia related to my study, but I did not get the employment experience access from CPA/CA. I have got positive skill assessment for my degree.
    Is it mandatory to get your experience accessed before claiming the points as well?

    I have a migration agent, he advised me that there is no need to do that, as we can deal with the case officer directly.

    Could you please advise what should I do in this scenario and any estimate time frame for the invitation to come with 70 points under 189?

    Regards,

    Vishal

    • Hi Vishal, It isn’t mandatory however I would be more inclined to get your skills assessed before completing your EOI as if you get an invite before completing this step it may prove problematic. With that said, I am not a migration agent so I wold be more inclined to take your agents advice then mine.

      Timeframes are always a little more difficult to qualify. See this article for more info on this subject.

      https://gettingdownunder.com/chances-getting-australian-visa/

      Regards

      Mark

  35. Hello Mark!
    Thank you for your impressive advices. My question is if one completes a 2-year master’s degree in Australia and wishes to apply for post-study work visa. Whereas, occupation related to the acquired qualification falls in the STSOL, shall one be able to get Post-study work visa under subclass 485. However, new changes mention that to get said visa one nominate occupation listed in the MLTSSL. Does that mean one whoes qualification does not match with the MTLSSL can’t apply for Post-study work visa?
    Thank you for your time and answer.

    • Hi Aziz, to qualify for the 485 visa, you need to have recently graduated with either an eligible qualification or with skills and qualifications that relate to an occupation on the MLTSSL list. If you don’t have an eligible qualification then I’m afraid you won’t be able to apply under this visa class, unfortunately.

  36. Hi Mark,
    I am a graduate Mechanical engineer and so far I have 70 points for 189 visa. Should I wait for July or apply now? As per skill select, the cut-off is at 75 points in May 2017.

    • Hi Vin, as the 1st July is now less than 1 week away, if you have not yet paid to have your skills assessed, I’d be inclined to wait until the 1st.

  37. Can, or rather, Could the DIPB disregard a bachelor’s qualification as irrelevant to a nominated occupation while the same has been considered “highly relevant” and comparable to an AQF Bachelor’s Degree by the assessing authority ?

    • Not really K. The DIPB rely on the assessing bodies to confirm that your skills and experience are aligned with the occupation published by the DIBP on the occupations list. That is their primary interest.

  38. Hi Mark,

    I am currently holding a Temporary Graduate (subclass 485) visa and looking to apply for Skilled Independent (subclass 189) visa as soon as possible. I am looking to apply either under Accountant General, Taxation Accountant, Management Accountant, External Auditor occupations, however, I am yet to take the skills assessment and a new language test. At the moment, I am sitting at 65 points, however, I am confident that I will achieve Superior English test results after taking the language test and therefore should gain additional 10 points. I don’t have any skilled employment experience so far.

    I am wondering if I have good enough chances at 75 points or would it be recommended to wait for another year to gain 5 additional points from skilled employment to enhance my chances for receiving an invitation? My current visa expires in Nov 2018. I am worried that the occupation list will change and my occupation is removed in the future. I understand that there is a chance for a removal of certain occupations for the 17/18 list already. Thus, I wish to apply as soon as possible but would appreciate an expert opinion on this.

    In addition, would you be able to tell me which occupation of the above mentioned occupations is ‘safest’ from your experience? For example, likelihood of being accepted with my points, likelihood of not being removed from the list etc.?

    Finally, my first application for my Temporary Graduate visa was rejected due to the fact that I had not taken a language test at the time of my application. I used an immigration agent who failed to let me know that I was required the testing after finishing my Australian Bachelor’s degree. I took the test later on and was granted the visa. Do you think the rejection may affect my permanent visa application?

    • Hi Maria, thanks for the comprehensive question. :)

      It’s always difficult to calculate the likelihood of getting an invite/opportunity to apply as not only are your skills and associated points a dependency on progressing to this stage but also the other applicants also applying for similar roles which we can never get full visibility of.

      I wrote more on this subject here which will hopefully also help you better visualise what I mean.

      With regards to safest occupations. Its also difficult to say and my advice would be to not wait! If you have skills and experience in an occupation on the list then apply. I say this with a small caveat, however. The occupations lists are due for an update on the 1st July so for the sake of waiting a couple of weeks, you will have a lot more confidence that the jobs on the list will be there for at least the next 6 – 12 months.

      Finally, with regards to the last part of your question, I don’t think the missing language test will impact your application in any way. I’d consider this more of an administrative oversight than anything malicious so it will be unlikely held against you.

      All the best

      Mark

  39. hi , I am currently studying diploma of hospitality and I have completed certificate 3 &4 in commercial cookery and my diploma is completing in first week of July and i am living in Melbourne since 2year, can I apply 457 visa as a chef my employee is ready to give me sponsorship . can you advice me what are the requirements and what are the new rule for 457 visa.

  40. Hi there, This blog is a great source of information and I thank Mark for creating the same.
    I submitted an EOI for sub class 189 and 190 with 70 and 75 points and I have a few questions
    1) Is the final MLTSSL for 2017-2018 out ?
    2) Any news on the first invitation rounds for 2017-2018, if they will be in July or during later months?
    3) For a 189/190 visa application, would a Police Clearance Certificate which would have a date prior to the date of invitation be valid ?
    4) Are there any DIPB mandated health clinics for health checkups ? For a 189/190 visa application, Can I get this checkup done before being invited ?
    Thanks

    • 1) Is the final MLTSSL for 2017-2018 out ?

      Not yet

      2) Any news on the first invitation rounds for 2017-2018, if they will be in July or during later months?

      They should be in July once the new ceilings are announced.

      3) For a 189/190 visa application, would a Police Clearance Certificate which would have a date prior to the date of invitation be valid ?

      I would suggest this is unlikely as it would not guarantee that you hadn’t been in trouble with the police between when the certificate was issued and when the invitation was made.

      4) Are there any DIPB mandated health clinics for health checkups ? For a 189/190 visa application, Can I get this checkup done before being invited ?

      As with the police checks. I would avoid doing this as you do not know when you will be invited and they will be seeking evidence that you are in good health at the time of invitation

      Hope this helps, if you have any additional questions. Please post in our forums as this helps me keep a track of any questions posted.

      https://gettingdownunder.com/ask-a-question/

  41. Hi Mark,

    I have a few questions to ask. Now I am at the stage of submitting my EOI but I only have 55 points, which only allows me to try my luck on visa subclass 190 and subclass 489. Do you have any idea which state is open or better chance for Chef category ? I was told regional NSW, South Australia (489 visa), Victoria ( 190 visa)

    I am using a migration agent and was told I can seek the nomination from different states as well. However, it will involve the application fees for each state or government agency. Is there such fee as I don’t read it on the net .

    What is your suggestion? Should I just go with the EOI for 1 state?

    Thank You

  42. Hi Mark,

    I work in advertising and have got my skill assessed by vetasses. Have also got my IELTS sorted with a score of 8+ in each category. But it seems that advertisng specialist and copywriter are not in the skill list. What are the chances of either one coming back on the list this year or any time soon? Thanks in advance.

  43. Hi Mark,

    I just got my MSA for Chef and I’m waiting for my IELTS and the next step would be applying EOI. May I know this changes affects ‘Chef’ application ?

    • If you have a spare $5 Million kicking around Raj then yes. Beyond the significant investor visa option, your choices are very limited unfortunately in this space. There used to be a loophole where people were coming to Australia, setting up their own business and then sponsoring themselves on a 457 visa holder. This option has since been closed.

  44. Hi Mark , today CPA confirmed that my accounting qualification and MBA would be acceptable for the 221112 Management Accountant visa.

    My points are 65 (I think)
    Age 38
    Proficient in English (overall 8 but mix results – some 7’s)
    Accountant and MBA
    4 years accounting and 6 years in finance (over past 10 years)

    Not logged an EOI yet – as hear that they now require 70 points and ‘ceiling’ reached already. Any advice would be appreciated.

    Tony

    • Hi, Tony, I would encourage you to focus on reaching the 70 point threshold. Are 8’s for IELTS achievable with a little work do you think? Where else might additional points be an option for you?

      Perhaps also consider reaching out to a registered migration agent to have an initial assessment. Any agent worth their weight should offer this initial assessment as a free service so in the very least they will be able to confirm your points have been calculated correctly if you are not 100% sure.

  45. Hi Mark,

    My name is Sohee, and I have just completed an MSA in chemical engineering. I am writing to find information on whether it is likely that ‘chemical engineer’ will be removed from the MLTSSL in July, as 16 jobs have already been removed from the 190 visa on the 19th April. With this in mind:.

    1. If I submit my points (65) to the EOI before the June 22 round and there are vacancies for chemical engineers, will it be possible to get an invitation from the EOI before July 1?

    2. If I cannot get a invitation until June 30 and ‘chemical engineer’ will be removed from the list in 2017-2018, is it impossible to apply for a permanent residency visa?

    I think I can gain 65 points by the middle of June so any information you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you for your help.

    • Hi Sohee. For your first question, it’s hard to say as it’s also dependent as the number of other applicants also waiting for an invitation. See this post for more info: What are my chances of getting an Australian Visa?

      With regards your second question. Your job has to appear on the MLTSSL for you to be able to qualify for PR. Without an occupation on this list, your options are somewhat limited, unfortunately.

  46. Hi Mark, my wife, daughter and I are currently in Australia on a 457 visa. It was granted May’16 and we like most others plan on applying for pr after 2 years through our employer. Obviously that would be May’18. We were granted the visa as a travel agent manager, which is no longer on either list from what i can see.
    With the conflicting info out there, do you think we will be able to apply for PR after March’18? Thanks

  47. Hello Mark
    I am arslan, I applied my eoi on 14 January 2017 for electronics engineering, as now the quota is almost complete and i am waiting for an invitation in july or August. If it stays in new mltssl list, my question is electronics engineering staying in new mltssl list coming in july or not?? If not what are the pathways to file PR?
    I will be v thankful to you,
    Thanks

    • We’ll have a better idea in the next few weeks hopefully Arsian, I don’t have a secret insight beyond the publically published information, unfortunately.

  48. Hi Mark,

    Thank you so much for your help in this for forum. Here is my question: my occupation is biomedical engineer 233913. This is both in the previous SOL and in the new MTSSL. But on March 24th, I received an email from ANZSCO Search mentioning that my occupation (biomedical engineer) had reach the ceiling and that I had to wait for the new SOL to be published on July 1st, 2017…

    But now there is the MTSSL replacing SOL so:
    – should I still wait until July 1st to make sure my occupation (biomedical engineer) will remain on the SOL/MTSSL list OR
    – I can consider that, since MTSSL replace SOL as of today, all occupations mentioned on the new MTSSL have not yet reach their ceiling value.

    Thank you for your help :)
    Not clear to me!
    Alex

    • Hi Alex, it’s pretty unclear to everyone, to be honest :)

      As I see it.

      – The MLTSSL has replaced the SOL so if an occupation was on the SOL but no longer on the MLTSSL then the opportunity to apply under this occupation is no more unfortunately.
      – If an occupation is on the MLTSSL (that used to be on the SOL) then the occupation ceiling originally allocated to the occupation prior to the changes will apply through to 30 June 2017 (end of the current migration year).
      – New occupation ceilings will likely come into effect for the occupations on the MLTSSL from 1 July 2017 with a number o potential changes to the MLTSSL also coming into effect from 1 July.

      Hope this helps clear things up a little?

      • Hi Mark,

        Thank you for your answer. It is clear that it is absolutely not clear :)
        Actually my issue is even more complex, perhaps you could advice me as well here!

        I just past my IELTS exam with 7+ on each module so I should be granted with 10 points on the Skill Select program. I am 31 so 30 points as well here and I have an engineering diploma so +15 points. Total is 55 points for sure.

        My last chance to get extra points, as I have no experience in Australia, is that “Engineers Australia” confirms my job experience in France. BUT I have 2 options:

        1/ submit a file as “biomedical engineer” for which I am sure they will grant me at least 5 years of experience so I will get +10 points therefore a total of 65 points. But I face the risk that the occupation “biomedical engineer”, as it is flagged at the moment, will not remain on the MLTSSL list on July 1st…

        2/ submit a file as “engineering manager”, also on the MLTSSL, not flagged so with 100% chance to remain on the MLTSSL list on July 1st, but which seems more difficult to be granted with some experience by the Engineers Australia as they request a lot of documentation evidence… and if they don’t grant me at least 3 years of experience, then I won’t get the 60 points for the VISA :(

        As you can read, I am both very motivated to go working in Australia and facing headache whether how I should apply for my VISA! :)
        Hope you could provide me some advice and that my story can help others.

        Good luck to everyone!
        Alex

        • Hi Alex,

          I have a question regarding MLTSSL catagory you have mentioned. As you mentioned that you have a engineer Diploma, How can you file in Biomedical engineering. I think its required minimum bachelor degree? Please correct me if I am wrong.

          • Hi Dhaval,
            Yes indeed, I definitely think you would need an actual diploma or bachelor degree to file in Biomedical engineering. As far as I’m concerned, my engineering diploma comes after 5 years in college in France.
            Good luck!
            Alex

  49. Hi mark I already lodged my file for 457 visa I applied nomination and visa application together in painting trade works could u tell me plz how long they can take it for decision and this decision will be in favour or against ??????

    • Hi Jasbar, I am assuming you have an employer sponsoring you? Typically, a 457 visa is processed in approximately 14 – 16 weeks.

      With regards to the outcome, It’s difficult to forecast from here with the info available.

  50. Hello Mark,
    Thanks for your response ,I am already on 457 if I apply for permanent residency, did I can get exemptions from English requirements or I need have 6 each band in ielts to apply for PR . Painting trade work

  51. Hi Mark,
    I am applying for retail manger from Orange pizza hut restaurant( Dine in or buffet ) in August 2017 for RSMS. One employee is already got PR from this business in 2015 and their time period is finishing in 5th august 2017.
    What are the changes effected with my application ?
    I’ll wait your kind reply.
    Thanks

  52. Good Morning Mark,
    I am going to Apply for 187 RSMS next week in Direct Entry Stream and I want to know if changes from March 2018 will affect on my file.

      • Hi Mark

        I have completed my Bachelor Degree in Business Accounting. I have got a full skill assessment but only with 55 points. Is there any chance any state open a state sponsorship for 489 and 190 visa after July 2017.

        • Hi Ram, its always difficult to answer these types of questions as it would be just speculation on my part. Lets see what 1st July brings us.

  53. Thanks sir , I received your message , did I need 6 bands each for applying permanent residency.

    Trade works painting

  54. Hey i applied under industrial engineer 233511 which is available for visa 189 . is the new list valid for 2017-18 or it might change again??

    • Should be valid for 2017 – 2018 Advitiya. The shorter term STSOL is likely to be updated every 6 months or so, however, I expect the MLTSSL however (long term/permanent visa) to remain unchanged until at least Q1 2018.

      • Thanks Mark , Me and my friend filed an EOI with 60 points in December. I know that the seat allocation for this year is almost done. Any idea when we can expect an invitation ?
        Also when can we expect a formal announcement if it is infact a list for 2017/18.
        Thanks in Advance

  55. Hi ,this is zee, currently I am on 457 visa it nearly 2 years have to apply permanent residency within 3 months .New rules will affect , if I apply for PR
    My trade is painting and decorating

  56. Is production or plant engineer still going to go pro rata in july 2017 or will relative sponsor 489 invitations will be given to this occupation.

    • Both lists come into effect the day after the legislation was published and replaced the SOL which expired in July. I don’t anticipate any change to this list in the Short term, especially in a little over 3 months.

  57. My occupation is 233513 production or plant engineer. Is this profession be available in July 2017 for 489 relative sponser with 65 points

    • This occupation will only qualify for sponsorship under the following visa schemes

      Skilled – Independent (subclass 189)
      Temporary Graduate (subclass 485)
      Skilled-Regional (Provisional) (subclass 489), if the applicant is not nominated by a State or Territory government agency.

      The list is valid now and I don’t anticipate any changes to the MLTSSL as soon as July

  58. Hi, Mark. Good day to you. My nominated occupation is 221111 Accountant (General), with DOE lodged to SkillSelect, DOE 21/11/2016 with point score of 65+5. Since then, I have been eagerly waiting for invitation for both 189 and NSW 190. My point score will increase by 5 to 70+5 on this coming 5/5/2017 for completion of 3 years overseas working experience as an Accountant.

    Based on the new MLTSSL and current trend for NSW 190 invitation, which is rather inactive if compared to previous years (only 1853 issued out of 4000 planned as at 28/2/2017), when do you think I could be possibly getting an invitation? Thank you.

    • Jie, it is almost impossible to say unfortunately as the likelihood of receiving an invitation is based on a number of factors. Eg. occupation ceiling, other applicants in the queue. The other applicant scores versus yours etc.

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