Mark
As part of the annual SOL review, there are a number of occupations which are ‘flagged’ for possible removal in the future.
Generally, occupations are flagged when there is emerging evidence of excess supply in the labour market. For the 2016–17 SOL, 51 occupations have been flagged.
Although being flagged down not guarantee that the role will be removed, we’d suggest that people looking to emigrate to Australia under one of the occupations below take this as an early ‘heads up’ that your choices may be limited when the 2017-2018 SOL is announced early next year.
Flagged Occupations for potential removal on the SOL for 2016 –17
| ANZSCO Code | Occupation |
|---|---|
| 133513 | Production Manager (Mining) |
| 221111 | Accountant (General) |
| 221112 | Management Accountant |
| 221113 | Taxation Accountant |
| 224111 | Actuary |
| 224511 | Land Economist |
| 224512 | Valuer |
| 231212 | Ship’s Engineer |
| 231213 | Ship’s Master |
| 231214 | Ship’s Officer |
| 232212 | Surveyor |
| 232213 | Cartographer |
| 232214 | Other Spatial Scientist |
| 233111 | Chemical Engineer |
| 233211 | Civil Engineer |
| 233212 | Geotechnical Engineer |
| 233213 | Quantity Surveyor |
| 233214 | Structural Engineer |
| 233215 | Transport Engineer |
| 233411 | Electronics Engineer |
| 233511 | Industrial Engineer |
| 233512 | Mechanical Engineer |
| 233513 | Production or Plant Engineer |
| 233911 | Aeronautical Engineer |
| 233912 | Agricultural Engineer |
| 233913 | Biomedical Engineer |
| 233914 | Engineering Technologist |
| 233915 | Environmental Engineer |
| 233916 | Naval Architect |
| 234611 | Medical Laboratory Scientist |
| 234711 | Veterinarian |
| 251211 | Medical Diagnostic Radiographer |
| 251212 | Medical Radiation Therapist |
| 252411 | Occupational Therapist |
| 262611 | Podiatrist |
| 252712 | Speech Pathologist |
| 253111 | General Practitioner |
| 253211 | Anaesthetist |
| 253312 | Cardiologist |
| 253315 | Endocrinologist |
| 253316 | Gastroenterologist |
| 253317 | Intensive Care Specialist |
| 253321 | Paediatrician |
| 253913 | Obstetrician and Gynaecologist |
| 253999 | Medical Practitioners nec |
| 271111 | Barrister |
| 271311 | Solicitor |
| 272314 | Psychotherapist |
| 272399 | Psychologists nec |
| 351311 | Chef* |
| 399111 | Boat Builder and Repairer |
| 399112 | Shipwright |
* Indicates that the occupation excludes positions in fast food or takeaway food service.
Hi Mark,
I am just wondering if you have any insight as to which occupations are going to be removed from the STSOL on the 1st of July? I am a dentist looking to get a 186 visa.
Thanks.
Hi Brian, not at this time I’m afraid. We should find out within the next couple of weeks if there are going to be further changes in the short term.
Hi Mark,
Myself Punit. I am not sure what occupation should I choose from SOL. I have done my Bachelors of Engineering in Electronics & Instrumentation, Master of Technology from Electrical Department in Instrumentation Specialisation. Then, I have 3 years and 4 months industrial work experience in Manufacturing company (TATA STEE) in Automation department, where my work was related to Instrumentation and Automation. Based on my Bachelors and Master Project, they are more related to Electronics Engineering. However, In a broad sense, my department in the Master was Electrical and work experience in industry was also related to Electrical as well as Electronics (Instrumentation is part of both of them). I am thinking to apply for 189 visa. Which occupation do you suggest? Currently, I am pursuing my PhD from Uni of Melbourne, Australia from Department of Electrical and Electronics Engineering.
Thanks in advance
Hi Punit, based on your commentary I would suggest that Electronics engineer would likely be the most appropriate occupation.
Hey please sir advice me…..I am to opt bachelor of IT for the Feb 2018 intake….do you think I need to change my field to other or IT is secure until about 4 to 5 years from now.
Writing in anticipation,
Regards,
Rishi Joshi.
Hi Rishi, a lot can change between now and 5 years time so it’s almost impossible to say, unfortunately.
All the best
Mark
But sir at least an idea about removal of IT because it hasn’t changed since years so can anything be predicted just frankly?
Regards,
Rishi Joshi.
Thank you for your response Mark, great website and very informative
Hi Mark,
We have recived an invitation to apply for a 189 visa on 7 June 2017. We have 60 days to apply.
However we are still awaiting our PCC from South Africa which can take up to 60 days.
We wanted to wait until we have all our docs to submit everything in one upload. So my question is, should our occupation be taken off of the skills list in the July 2017/2018 before we have submitted the application, would that cancel out our invitation from June?
If so then we would rather submit end of June and then await a request from the CO which will hive us another 28 days, do you think that is acceptable?
You see, we live in Aus on my 457 currently and now getting the 189 through my wife. So the PCC we submitted for our 457 has expired. We have a PCC from Australia since we have been living here and didnt think we needed another one from SA as we have not been back there since, but some people have said their CO has insisted they get a new one.
Regards,
Geoff
Hi Geoff, my understanding is if you have received an invitation to apply then your ‘place’ will be secure, even if your occupation is removed from the list however you will still need to submit your documentation in time!
Personally, I would send the documentation now (including both your Aussie and SA PCC’s with a note confirming that you have not returned to SA since being in Australia).
Worst case scenario, you might be asked to provide a new PCC from SA however on the basis that this has been requested you’ll still be able to provide this in time.
I have taken admission in Deakin university for Master of Professional Engineering (Mechanical Engineering Design) for July 2017 intake. Mechanical Engineer has been flagged in the 2016-17 list for possible removal from SOL in future or probably in 2017-18 SOL. So what will be the employment scene when I will complete my masters in July 2019? Should I go ahead for masters? Is it worth taking risk?
Please guide.
H Bipeen, its really difficult to say, lots can change between now and 2019, especially as far as Australian Immigration is concerned.
Hey Mark.
If I graduated at Industrial Engineering and then this occupation is removed, can I do a masters in Civil Engineering and apply with a occupation of Civil Engineer?
Does a master change my bachelor degree occupation?
I can’t find that info anywhere.
Thanks :)
Hi Daniel, I’m afraid when it comes to occupation specific questions, my level of knowledge begins to waver, unfortunately.
Probably better to direct your question to Engineers Australia as the assessing body: https://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/Contact-Us
Hi Mark!
Well, I think I got it.
You can choose what study you will use as a qualification.
So If I use a master of Civil Engineering, my occupation will be Civil Engineer. If I use a graduation of Industrial Engineering, my occupation will be Industrial Engineer.
You don’t get extra point or extra qualification for having both. You need to choose one of them.
I’ll check that information at Engineers Australia and then I let you know here.
Hi Mark,
I am a senior Biomedical engineer(19yrs exp) who authorised an agent in Dubai with MARA number to help me file the application.Now i have completed IELTS,CDR and all other formalities and is about to apply through them.Now i came to know that the Biomedical engineering job is flagged.Does this mean that i won’t land up in a Biomedical job?This is a real big decision for me as i am a family man and my wife works as opthalmologist.
Hi Shiva, when an occupation is flagged, it’s exactly that. It’s still on the list, however, being flagged means that it may be removed. We won’t know for sure until the updated list becomes available which will be sometime between now and 1st July. In the meantime. The current list is valid even if the occupation is flagged.
Hi Mark,
I see that the below occupations feature in the flagged list:
Accountant (General) – ANZSCO 221111
Management Accountant – ANZSCO 221112
Taxation Accountant – ANZSCO 221113
However, External Auditor – ANZSCO 221213 does not feature in this list.
If Accountant (General) gets removed from the 207-18 SOL, Will External Auditor still stay on the list (as it is not flagged) OR Will it be removed as well as these two occupations are closely related?
When is the new SOL – MLTSSOL for 2017-18 published?
Thanks and Regards,
Danny
Hi Danny, theoretically it won’t be impacted. Though the roles are quite similar, the list isn’t necessarily a group of occupations selected due to the similarity of their tasks, rather the market conditions, the labour market (or lack of) for a particular occupation and a heap of other factors.
The final SOL/MLTSSL should be published in the next couple of weeks (if previous years are anything to go by).
Thanks Mark .Are there 100% chances of electronic engineering removal from 2017- 2018 SOL this July ? Or is there any hope of remaining electronic engineering in SOL ??
Hi Mark,
I have submitted my EOI in Dec 2016 as Electronic Engineer with 55 points for 189 Visa.My points will be 60 on 19th July 2017.If electronic engineering will be remove from SOL then what will be my status?
If it’s removed you’ll need to look at alternative occupation options Faisal. If you have not received an invitation before the occupation is removed, your options will be limited unfortunately.
Do you think that Accountant will be removed completely from the list?
Is Finance Manager also flagged to be removed or not?
Hi.
All the flagged roles I’m aware of were listed in this article. The accountant role has been on the flagged list for some time and we should have a better idea about its future in the next few weeks hopefully!
I am petroleum engineering and I am in Australia by visa 476(regonised gratitude) I want to apply for visa 189 but as long as my course removed from occupation list I think to convert to chemical engineering or engineering technologies .as I am fresh gratuated which of them I have more chance that my CdR will be accepted in skill assignment or is it other way around that I can apply for or
Hi Nasim, I’m afraid I’m not familiar enough with your skills and experience to comment. Knowing your academic background probably isn’t quite enough. I would be inclined to research both engineering professions and align the capabilities of these roles with your prior experience.
my eoi is postive for south australia. but now my occupation is removed from dibp list Australia and my eoi is valid till 30 april so i am confused ?
should i lodge my file in dibp?
Hi Vikas, when you say your EOI was positive, does this mean you have received an invitation to apply under the state sponsored visa class for South Australia? If you have, then no further action is required on your part. The rules at the time your invitation was issued will apply.
If you have not received an invitation and your occupation is no longer on the MLTSS then I’m afraid the news is less positive unfortunately and you will need to either consider your occupation options, wait for your occupation to return to the MLTSS or check the STSOL to see if your occupation will qualify for one of the shorter term visa options.
Hi,
I am a chemical engineer and have just applied for my skill assessment with australia engineers using the fast track option. What are my chances of receiving an invitation if I file my eoi early June as I can see that Chemical Engineer is flagged and can be removed from the skilled occupation list.
Thanks
Impossible to say unfortunately Meghana as the likelihood is also dependent on the other Chemical Engineers already waiting on the list and where you sit in the ‘queue’ once your skills assessment is complete.
Hi,
I have submitted my EOI for NSW state nomination on September 2016. Due to the recent changes in the list, my nominated occupation Plant or production engineer removed from state nominated 190 visa. As per DIBP those who apply on or after 19th April will not be considered for 190 visa. In my case, is my EOI still valid? Normally EOI is valid for 2 years. So I’m confused whether I will be invited or not? In case if my case occupation included for state nomination, Should I have to submit a new EOI of my existing EOI get valid?
Thanks
For state nomination, I think you would need to have flagged your interest in state nomination as part of the EOI process. Your current EOI is still valid but it is exactly that, an expression of interest. If your occupation is not on the current list the DIBP use to short list candidates for an invite. Unfortunately you might be waiting some time for an invite..
Hi,
Thanks for the information. As you said I might have to wait a Long time to get an invite. But my EOI submitted almost seven months ago. Also my agent says that my EOI is not valid anymore and NSW will not invite any occupation that has been removed. I’m quite confused here.
Regards,
Madhan
Hi Mark,
I have studied Bachelors of Management studies (equivalent to BBA) and Law from India, and i would want to relocate in Australia.Can you pleases suggest me with the academic courses i should apply in Australia which are job oriented and will help me relocating there. Looking at my interest my Education Counselor has suggested to Take Master of Commerce with Specialization in Financial Crime and Governance from Macquiare University, Sydney or LLM or MBA, Please help me which one has a better scope. I’m more interested in working in as a Financial fraud investigator but also want to consider future scope there.
Thanks in Advance!! :)
Hi Divya, It’s difficult to forecast or give advice in this space. I say this because, by the time you have completed your studies, the jobs considered in demand might be completely different. I know that this isn’t very helpful however it wouldn’t feel right to speculate with regards to such an important decision.
All the best! Mark
Ok, no issues. Thank you for replying every time much appreciated.
Hi Mark, I am a Law graduate from India, and i am considering to do LLM or Masters of Commerce with specialization in financial Crime and Governance in Australia this year , will the changes in SOL impact my carer
Hi Divya, it really is too early to tell. By the time you are in a position to look for full-time work after your studies, the job lists might look completely different.
Thank you for your reply, but i have one more query regarding the courses i should take which is mentioned above.
Thank You!!
Divya, this is really a decision to make for yourself. :)
I currently in my final year of engineering in India and I plan to apply for Masters in Software engineering or computer science in Australia. After Masters, I wish to work in Australia and become a citizen eventually. Will I be affected? If yes, how?
Hi Mayank. I would advise against basing your plans on current events. By the time you have completed your masters the list of occupations considered in demand will likely to be very different so it’s difficult to suggest if/how you might be affected.
How do you think about civil Engineers ? Will there a high possibility of removing from the list ?
It’s already confirmed on the new list Ajay, See here MLTSSL
Hi Mark,
I got 489 state nomination on 5 April 2017 and invited in Skill Select on 11 april 2017 to apply Visa, and I am preparing document to apply for Visa in skill select but now my ocupation has been removed from current list. Am I know eligible to apply 489 visa?
* Am I not eligible to apply 489 Visa?
Hi Alpesh, if you have already received an invitation then I’d suggest you are one of the lucky ones. The general understanding at this time is that if an invitation has been issued by the department and your visa application is already being processed then you will not be impacted by the recently announced changes.
Hi Alpesh.
Can you please enlighten us about your process?
You got invite before removal of your occupation, and then?
What happened?
Hi Mark Im Hira Ali have graduated as an accountant in 2016. Am currently on 60 points. My question is which category of accountant should i go for in orf
Der to get an early invitation. Can i get two occupations i.e Accounting general and corporate treasurer assessed by ICCA AND IPA respectively?
Or can i only get one job occupation assessed for the purpose of EOI?
THANKS
Hi Hira, you can have as many assessments as you wish however you would need a separate EOI for each assessment.
Hope this helps
Hi Mark
Do you think that Electronic engineering will be removed this year?
Hi Imran, it’s really difficult to say as I have as much insight at this time as everyone else does.
What I would say however is, if you want to move to Australia and you would pass the qualification criteria now, then apply now.
The Australian migration department changes their selection criteria frequently so it’s always best to apply now, wait later, instead of holding off from applying at all.
Regards
Mark
Hello,
Myself Upesh Patel. Having 7+ experience. I have done my diploma in mechanical after my 10th grade. So, number of year study is 13 year. After so many search I came to conclusion that I’m eligible to apply through mechanical technician and my job duties match with that. I have planned to apply in Skill sponsorship visa. Right now mechanical technician is not open in any state. Is there any chance to get it reopen in future? Expectedly, when it will open?
Dear Mark,
I have applied for Visa 189 with having points 65 on 17th December 2016 with visa Class 233513 – Plant & Production Engineer, I some questions making me confused,
1) The cut of date is now 10th November 2016, and occupation is about to reach the ceiling, So will I get invited in the start of new year?
2) If the occupation gets removed Will I still be able to get the Invite as I have applied in 2016.
Hey … how you doing? I have just updated my Eoi … and m having 70 points for 189 visa and 70+5 points for 190 visa, and have applied in the category of accountant general for 189 visa and similar for 190 visa , and also in the category of management account… so I want to know what are my chances?
Hi Mark ,
I’m currently studying Building and Construction Management at university of Canberra and expecting to graduate in mid 2018 . I am majoring in Quantity Surveying and wish to apply for pr.
QS is flagged at the moment . Do you think it will get removed in near future ?
Thanks
Jahan
Only those who have the ability to forecast the future would be able to answer your question unfortunately Jahan, with that said. There still appears to be a lot of QS roles being advertised so I would take that as a positive https://www.seek.com.au/jobs?keywords=quality+surveyer
I am a UK Solicitor in the process of having my qualifications assessed in Australia. Is it likely that Solicitors will be removed from the 17/18 SOL? I note that are only 126 this year with a ceiling of 5000. Is this taken into account?
thanks
Hi Jo, short answer is we won’t know if the role will be removed until later in the year when the submissions are made to Parliment.
With regards to the numbers, yes they are most certainly taken into account.
Best wishes
Mark
Hi Mark,
I am Mechanical Engineer and I was wondering if it is going to be remove from the list for the 2017-2018 period.
thanks
Hi Joel, it’s only been flagged to be removed at this stage, We probably won’t know for sure until early next year when the new Skilled Occupations List is being prepared.
All the best
Mark
Hi Mark.
I have applied for 189 visa last december (i.e 11 dec 2015) as Mechanical Engineer. I have claimed 60 points and I have provided them with all my documents including medical and PCC. I was just wondering if my name doesn’t come in year 2016-2017 and if they remove mechanical engineering from 2017-2018. Does that mean I ll get rejection automatically? Or is there still a chance?
Thanks
Hey mate.
If you receive an invite and your application is being progressed at the time of removal then you will be fine.
If you haven’t received an invite at the time of removal from the SOL then your details will remain on skill select for 2 years (from memory) if the role returns back to the SOL then you could still receive an invite.
All the best
Mark
Hi Mark im dental tehnician from Macedonia how can i apply for working viza and how much manny cost. Thanks
Hi Jovancho
This article may help
https://gettingdownunder.com/job-australian-sol-what-next/
The costs will vary depending on whether or not you do the paperwork youseld or utilise a migration agent to do this for you.
hi mark ,
will dentist return in the SOL of 2017 – 2018 ?
Depends on Market conditions at the time Mostafa so it’s difficult to say.
if they remove engineering fields from SOL it may effect their currency which was happened once previously aus so how they will remove these as these are majority of people choose
Hi, what about the Electronics Engineer. Will it stay until 2 years in SOL??
Its not been flagged at the moment Sushant
is this a complete list of jobs or more to come?
Complete as of the time of typing
Hi Mark
I am chemical engineer and recently done IELTS. How to move about further.
Hi Imran, please register and post in the group forums here: https://gettingdownunder.com/groups/engineers-australia/
I am a veterinary doctor and planning to move to Australia under skilled worker program. Now a days I am busy in IELTS preparation but greatly shocked after came to know that ” VETERINARY ” profession is removed from the list . Now what is your advice for me Sir Mark ?
Hi, Asad, it hasn’t been removed yet, and it’s only being ‘considered’ for removal.I would, however, recommend that you look to register your EOI as soon as possible.
Best wishes
Mark
Im looking for imigration advice for australia.
Hi Adnan, consider registering a free account and we will help you where we can in our community groups https://gettingdownunder.com/register-free-account/